B&M 11000 Box Cars

Boston & Maine 11000 Series Box Cars

Index

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

For more info on the classification cards and "webitizing" them, see this web page
From 1942 class book.
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From 1955 class book.
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Specifications From Classification Cards

Spec Value
Builder Fitchburg Shops [per Tim Gilbert]
Lot # 3
Car Numbers 11000-11125 [11127?]
Quantity 125 [?]
Build Date 1900
AAR class XM
Description Fitchburg 40-tons box cars
Lt Weight 36,300 lbs (approx)
Cubic Cap'y 2,603 Cu. Ft.
Trucks Arch bar type, all-metal, American Steel Foundry Co's.
Air Brake 8" x 12" cylinder
Journals 5" x 9" (80,000 lbs nominal capacity)
Coupler MCB
Coupler Yoke 5" x 5" shanks, 6½" butts
Draft Gear MCB
Center Plates Spherical, cast integral with steel body- and truck- bolsters
Truss rods 4 x 1¼"

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data - 1907-1910
Description 3/1907
Length 40'-0¾"
Width 8'-6¼"
Height 7'-7¾"
Capacity (Pounds) 80000

ORER Size Data
Description 8/1910 2/1914
M.C.B. Designation XM (11/1914)
Inside
Dimensions Length 40'-0¾" 40'
Width 8'-6¼" 8'-7"
Height 12'-4½"[sic]
7'-7¾" by 8/1911 7'-7"
Outside
Dimensions Length 40'-10" 40'-10"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-3" 9'-3"
Extreme Width
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 12'-4½" 12'-4½"
To Top of Running Board 13' 13'
To Extreme Height 14' 14'
Door - Side
opening Width 4'-10" 4'-10"
Height 7'-3" 7'-3"
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 2610 (by 8/1911) 2603
Pounds 80000 80000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
Possibly numbered 55100-55227 from 1900-1906[ish]
1906 - 08 11000-11127 52 Box, Grain
1907 - 03 " 103 "
1907 - 04 " (illegible) "
1907 - 05 " (illegible) "
1907 - 06 " 111 "
1907 - 07 (same)
1907 - 08 " 114 "
1907 - 09 (same)
1907 - 10 (same)
1907 - 11 (same)
1907 - 12 (same)
1908 - 01 (same)
1908 - 02 " 116 "
1908 - 03 " 120 "
1908 - 04 (same)
1908 - 05 " 125 "
1908 - 08 " 126? "
1908 - 09 " 126 "
1908 - 10 (same)
1908 - 11 (same)
1908 - 12 (same)
1909 - 01 " 125? "
1909 - 02 " 126 "
1909 - 04 " 126 "
1909 - 05 (same)
1909 - 06 (same)
1909 - 07 (same)
1909 - 08 (same)
1909 - 09 (same)?
1909 - 10 (same)
1909 - 11 (same)
1910 - 01 (same)
1910 - 02 (same)
1910 - 03 (same)
1910 - 06 (same)
1910 - 07 (same)
1910 - 04 (same)
1910 - 05 (same)
1910 - 08 " 125 "
1910 - 09 (same)
1910 - 11 (same)
1910 - 12 " 124 "
1911 - 02 (same)
1911 - 03 (same)
1911 - 04 (same)
1911 - 05 (same)
1912 - 06 " 123 "
1912 - 07 (same)
1911 - 08 (same)
1911 - 09 (same)
1911 - 10 (same)
1911 - 11 (same)
1911 - 12 (same)
1912 - 01 (same)
1912 - 02 (same)
1912 - 03 (same)
1912 - 04 (same)
1912 - 05 (same)
1912 - 08 (same)
1912 - 09 (same)
1912 - 10 " (illegible) "
1912 - 11 " 123 "
1912 - 12 (same)
1913 - 01 (same)
1913 - 02 (same)
1913 - 03 (same)
1913 - 04 " 123? "
1913 - 05 " (illegible) "
1913 - 06 " 122 "
1913 - 07 (same)
1913 - 10 (same)
1913 - 11 (same)
1913 - 12 (same)
1914 - 01 (same)
1914 - 02 11000-11125 122 "
1914 - 03 (same)
1914 - 04 (same)
1914 - 05 (same)
1914 - 06 (same)
1914 - 07 (same)
1914 - 09 (same)
1914 - 10 (same)
1914 - 11 (same)
1914 - 12 (same)
1915 - 01 (same)
1915 - 02 (same)
1915 - 03 (same)
1915 - 04 (same)
1915 - 05 (same)
1915 - 10 " 121 "
1915 - 11 (same)
1915 - 12 (same)
1916 - 01 (same)
1916 - 02 (same)
1916 - 03 (same)
1916 - 04 " 120 "
1916 - 05 (same)
1916 - 06 " 119 "
1916 - 07 (same)
1916 - 08 (same)
1916 - 09 (same)
1916 - 10 (same)
1916 - 11 (same)
1916 - 12 (same)
1917 - 01 (same)
1917 - 02 (same)
1917 - 03 (same)
1917 - 04 (same)
1917 - 05 " 118 "
1917 - 06 (same)
1917 - 10 (same)
1917 - 11 (same)
1919 - 10 11000-11125 115 "
1920 - 01 (same)
1921 - 05 " 110 "
1921 - 12 " 100 "
1922 - 08 " 91 "
1922 - 11 " 88 "
1923 - 02 " 78 "
1924 - 11 11001-11125 41 "
1925 - 05 " 26 "
1925 - 07 11001-11093 10 "
1925 - 10 11006-11093 8 "
1926 - 08 11028,11073 2 "
1926 - 10 (same)
1927 - 06 11028 1 "
1927 - 08 (same)
1928 - 07 Not listed

ORER Notes

Discussion, General Notes

Per Tim Gilbert
At the turn of the century, the B&M and Fitchburg's boxcars were 34' long. The Fitchburg decided to bypass the evolutionary development of 36 footers, and build 40 footers instead.
The calculated load limit of the #11000 [series], 99,700 pounds, exceeded every subsequent boxcar acquisition until the first boxcar with 5½" x 10" journals, the #69999, an ex-B&O boxcar rebuilt in 1943. This series may have been described in the ORER as "Box, Grain", but if they ever did carry a full load of grain, wayside farmers would have thought that to be pennies came from heaven. These cars were just too light. The last was off the roster by 1926 - 26 years after it was built, even thought he economy was good. (e.g. - Compare to the retirement of the 36' WUF boxcars in 1934 when they were surplus due to the depression.)

Eric Neubauer points out that these may be ex- B&M 51100 series cars. I need more ORER listings in the 1900-1901 era to figure this out.
KGA - I am wondering if the "Fitchburg" on the class card refers to the *shops*, NOT the railroad?
(These cars do not show up in the 06-1900 ORER, the 55100 series shows up by the 03-1901 ORER in the B&M, not ex-Fitchburg, listing)
Also, the attrition rate before 1920 does not seem excessive (when the cars were 20 years old), so either there was a lot of rebuilding going on, or Tim's assertion that they were "just too light" needs re-examination...
B&MRRHS 1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Book No. 1 (Reprint of B&M lettering diagrams)
Note the "Book page number" below refers to the page number in the B&MRRHS book.
As the B&MRRHS book's pages are NOT numbered, "1" is the first page with an actual diagram! (NOT the title pages or index pages)
"U" = upper diagram on that page, "L" = lower diagram
The "Diagram number" refers to the circled number (lower right corner) in each diagram (the original page number)

Book page # 4-L
B&M Diagram # 8
Diagram Date 1907
Color on Diagram Brown
Notes on Diagram
Datum 1900 Index 1907 Index
Class of car n/a Box Car
Length n/a 40'
Capacity n/a 80,000
Car Numbers n/a 11000-11125
Page [original] n/a 8

Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data

Acquisition Books (1898 - 1917 only)

Volume number refers original book number
Page numbers refer to numbers on pages in original book, NOT to pages in PDF file(s)
Dates refer to first/last dates expenses were recorded in the acquisition book, NOT to car delivery dates

Vol Page Car Number(s) First
Date Last
Date Builder $ / Car Notes
1 24 11000-11127 1900-07 1900-11 B&M, E. Fitchburg $735 40', 80000 lbs

Car Books (1923-06 thru 1936-10, then 1944-05 thru 1960-03)

Volume number refers original book number
Part number refers to PDF file part as posted on B&MRRHS site
Page numbers refer to pages in PDF file(s) (L/R = Left or Right side of that PDF page)

Car Number(s) Vol Part Page Date Action Location New # Notes
11019 1 3 4 1925-01-09 Destroyed Manchester
11038 1 2 9 1924-06-05 Destroyed
11073 1 4 7 1927-03-01 Destroyed ["B" = "Box"?]
11119 1 3 4 1925-01-09 Destroyed Manchester
11120 1 2 8 1924-06-06 Destroyed
11122 1 1 3 1922-11-21 Destroyed

Car Disposition Records

Source(s)
ID Box Folder Folder name Link Title Approx.
Start date Approx.
End date
A 1 3 Freight Car List Old 10190 - 12758 Auto + Misc ? 1928?

Data
Car Number Date Built Disposition
Date Disposition New Car #
11026 1900-08 1924-09 to W3778
11028 1900-08 1928-03 Destroyed
11110 1900-10 1924-11 to W3783

ICC Valuation Data (circa 1914)

For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page

"Owning"
RR Car # /
Range Val
Sheet # Index
on Page Car Type Built
Date Builder Capy Underframe Body Notes
Fitch 11000-11035 F-4 1 Box 1900 Fitchburg 80 wood wood
Fitch 11037-11039 F-4 2 Box 1900 Fitchburg 80 wood wood
Fitch 11041-11078 F-4 3 Box 1900 Fitchburg 80 wood wood
Fitch 11080-11099 F-4 4 Box 1900 Fitchburg 80 wood wood
Fitch 11100-11108 F-4 5 Box 1900 Fitchburg 80 wood wood
Fitch 11110-11125 F-4 6 Box 1900 Fitchburg 80 wood wood

Paint Schemes

References or other data

Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
08-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
20-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
09-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1942 class card
10-May-2020 KG Akerboom Updated class card table
15-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931)
28-May-2020 KG Akerboom updated 10/1919
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru
16-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
10-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues)
Also possibility of renumbering from the B&M 55100-55127 series
17-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added Car Book Data
17-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Standardized formatting of Classification Card(s) section
19-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Updated 1942 Classification Card(s)
24-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1955 Classification Card
27-Jan-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from "1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Diagrams" book
10-Apr-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917
04-Jul-2021 KG Akerboom Reorganized Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data (Car # to 1st column, 2nd/other changes to new rows)
24-Sep-2021 KG Akerboom Added car disposition record data
22-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added ICC Valuation data