B&M 41100 Box Cars

Boston & Maine 41100 Series Box Cars

Index

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Classification Cards

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ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data - 1894
Description 5/1903
Length 34'
Width
Height
Capacity (Pounds) 40000

ORER Size Data
Description 8/1910 Value 10/1914 4/1915
M.C.B. Designation XM (11/1914) XM
Inside
Dimensions Length 34' 34' 34'
Width 8' to 9'-2" 8' 8'
Height … 6'-10" 6'-10"
Outside
Dimensions Length 34'-9" 34'-9" 34'-9"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 8'-9" 8'-9" 8'-9"
Extreme Width
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width
To Eaves or top of sides or platform
To Top of Running Board
To Extreme Height
Door - Side
opening Width 5'
Height 7'
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 1859 1859
Pounds 40000 40000 40000

Note I believe these are existing cars being renumbered into a contiguous series
ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
1901 - 03 41100-42563 1491 Box, 34', 40000 lbs capacity
1901 - 04 " (illegible) "
1901 - 05 " (illegible) "
1901 - 06 " 1439(?) "
1901 - 07 41100-42599 1439(?) "
1901 - 08 " (illegible) "
1901 - 09 " (illegible) "
1901 - 10 " (illegible) "
1901 - 11 " (illegible) "
1903 - 03 " 1415 "
1903 - 05 41100-42999 1413(?) Box
1903 - 06 " 1410 "
1903 - 07 " 1409 "
1903 - 08 (same)
1903 - 09 " 1405 "
1903 - 10 " 1397 "
1903 - 11 " 1395 "
1904 - 07 " 1381 "
1904 - 12 " 1373 "
1905 - 01 " 1374 "
1905 - 03 " 1373 "
1905 - 04 " 1378(?) "
1905 - 06 " 1371 "
1906 - 08 " 1349 "
1907 - 03 " 1325(?) "
1907 - 04 " 1313 "
1907 - 05 " (illegible) "
1907 - 06 " 1307 "
1907 - 07 " 1299 "
1907 - 08 " 1295 "
1907 - 09 " 1261 "
1907 - 10 (same)
1907 - 11 " 1164 "
1907 - 12 " 1136 "
1908 - 01 " 1107 "
1908 - 02 " (illegible) "
1908 - 03 " 1085 "
1908 - 04 " 1079 "
1908 - 05 " 1075 "
1908 - 08 " 1058 "
1908 - 09 " 1046 "
1908 - 10 " 1038 "
1908 - 11 (same)
1908 - 12 " 1048(?) "
1909 - 01 " 1042 "
1909 - 02 " 1038 "
1909 - 04 " 1012 "
1909 - 05 " 1006 "
1909 - 06 " 989 "
1909 - 07 " 968 "
1909 - 08 " 960 "
1909 - 09 " 936 "
1909 - 10 " 926 "
1909 - 11 " 903(?) "
1910 - 01 " 842 "
1910 - 02 " 827 "
1910 - 03 " 814 "
1910 - 04 " 810 "
1910 - 05 (same)
1910 - 06 " (illegible) "
1910 - 07 " 761 "
1910 - 08 " 752 "
1910 - 09 " 727 "
1910 - 11 " 673 "
1910 - 12 " 657 "
1911 - 02 " 640 "
1911 - 03 " 626 "
1911 - 04 " 615 "
1911 - 05 " 608 "
1911 - 08 " 552 "
1911 - 09 " 523 "
1911 - 10 " 509 "
1911 - 11 " 472 "
1911 - 12 " 455 "
1912 - 01 " 453 "
1912 - 02 " 448 "
1912 - 03 " 441 "
1912 - 04 " 432 "
1912 - 05 " 424 "
1912 - 06 " 415 "
1912 - 07 " 406 "
1912 - 08 " 395 "
1912 - 09 " 376 "
1912 - 10 " (illegible) "
1912 - 11 " 357 "
1912 - 12 " 340 "
1913 - 01 " 331 "
1913 - 02 " 321 "
1913 - 03 " 313 "
1913 - 04 " (illegible) "
1913 - 05 " 287? "
1913 - 06 " 266 "
1913 - 07 " 247 "
1913 - 10 " 213 "
1913 - 11 " 201 "
1913 - 12 " 193 "
1914 - 01 " 183 "
1914 - 02 " 162 "
1914 - 03 41100-42479 (illegible) "
1914 - 04 " (illegible) "
1914 - 05 " 135 "
1914 - 06 " 131 "
1914 - 07 " 119 "
1914 - 09 " 105 "
1914 - 10 " (illegible) "
1914 - 11 " 84 "
1914 - 12 (same)
1915 - 01 " 75 "
1915 - 02 " 71 "
1915 - 03 " 69 "
1915 - 04 " 67 "
1915 - 05 " 63 "
1915 - 10 " 43 "
1915 - 11 " 43 "
1915 - 12 " 42 "
1916 - 01 " 41 "
1916 - 02 " 20 "
1916 - 03 " (illegible) "
1916 - 04 " 18 "
1916 - 05 " 16 "
1916 - 06 (same)
1916 - 07 " 15 "
1916 - 08 (same)
1916 - 09 (same)
1916 - 10 " 14 "
1916 - 11 " 13 "
1916 - 12 (same)
1917 - 01 (same)
1917 - 02 (same)
1917 - 03 " 12 "
1917 - 04 " 2(?) "
1917 - 05 " 9 "
1917 - 06 (same)
1917 - 10 " 7 "
1917 - 11 (same)
1919 - 10 41189,42174 2 "
1920 - 01 (same)
1921 - 05 Not listed

ORER Notes

Discussion, General Notes

B&MRRHS 1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Book No. 1 (Reprint of B&M lettering diagrams)
Note the "Book page number" below refers to the page number in the B&MRRHS book.
As the B&MRRHS book's pages are NOT numbered, "1" is the first page with an actual diagram! (NOT the title pages or index pages)
"U" = upper diagram on that page, "L" = lower diagram
The "Diagram number" refers to the circled number (lower right corner) in each diagram (the original page number)

Book page # 13 - L
B&M Diagram # 25
Diagram Date 1907
Color on Diagram Brown
Notes on Diagram
Datum 1900 Index 1907 Index
Class of car Box Car Box Car
Length 34' 34'
Capacity 40,000 40,000
Car Numbers 41100-42563 41100-42999
Page [original] 10 25

Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data

Acquisition Books (1898 - 1917 only)

Volume number refers original book number
Page numbers refer to numbers on pages in original book, NOT to pages in PDF file(s)
Dates refer to first/last dates expenses were recorded in the acquisition book, NOT to car delivery dates

Vol Page Car Number(s) First
Date Last
Date Builder $ / Car Notes
1 34 41493 1901-09 - ? $450 Bought Detrot[sic?] Rolling Stock Co., ex- B&L 8230
1 34 41632 1901-09 - ? $450 Bought Detrot[sic?] Rolling Stock Co., ex- B&L 8262
1 34 41292 1901-09 - ? $450 Bought Detrot[sic?] Rolling Stock Co., ex- B&L 8349

Car Disposition Records

Source(s)
ID Box Folder Folder name Link Title Approx.
Start date Approx.
End date
A 2 1 Boxcars 40000 40200-46755 Box 1918? 1919?

Data
Car Number Disposition
Source ID Date Built Disposition
Date Disposition New Car #
41189 A 1892-05 1919-12 to 3538
41235 A 1888-06 1919-01 to 3593

ICC Valuation Data (circa 1914)

For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page

"Owning"
RR Car # /
Range Val
Sheet # Index
on Page Car Type Built
Date Builder Capy Underframe Body Notes
Fitch 41100 F-4 25 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41102 F-4 26 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41107 F-4 27 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41112 F-4 28 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41117 F-4 29 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41145 F-4 30 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41147 F-4 31 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41152 F-4 32 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41157-41158 F-4 33 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41160 F-4 34 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41189 F-4 35 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41203 F-4 36 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41212 F-4 37 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41216 F-4 38 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41235-41237 F-4 39 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41239 F-4 40 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41252 F-4 41 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41274 F-4 42 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41276 F-4 43 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41324 F-4 44 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41327-41328 F-4 45 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41334 F-4 46 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41344 F-4 47 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41350 F-4 48 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41354 F-4 49 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41373-41374 F-4 50 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41389 F-4 51 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41409 F-4 52 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41411 F-4 53 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41422 F-4 54 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41425-41426 F-4 55 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41429 F-4 56 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41435 F-4 57 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41437 F-4 58 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41455 F-4 59 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41459-41460 F-4 60 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41462 F-4 61 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41469 F-4 62 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41484-41485 F-4 63 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41489 F-4 64 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41504 F-4 65 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41508 F-4 66 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41518 F-4 67 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41524 F-4 68 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41528 F-4 69 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41542 F-4 70 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41552 F-4 71 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41554 F-4 72 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41568 F-4 73 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41582 F-4 74 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41598 F-4 75 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41609 F-4 76 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41642 F-4 77 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41646 F-4 78 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41720 F-4 79 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41739 F-4 80 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41747 F-4 81 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41757 F-4 82 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41776 F-4 83 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41786 F-4 84 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41822 F-4 85 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41876 F-4 86 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41879-41880 F-4 87 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41901 F-4 88 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41919 F-4 89 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41924 F-4 90 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41939 F-4 91 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41943 F-4 92 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41945 F-4 93 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 41954 F-4 94 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42003 F-4 95 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42005 F-4 96 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42021 F-4 97 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42045 F-4 98 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42058 F-4 99 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42117 F-4 100 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42144 F-4 101 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42174 F-4 102 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42195 F-4 103 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42229 F-4 104 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42239 F-4 105 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42268 F-4 106 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42290 F-4 107 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42309 F-4 108 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42319-42320 F-4 109 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42337 F-4 110 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42342 F-4 111 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42347 F-4 112 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42382 F-4 113 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42427 F-4 114 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42459 F-4 115 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42470 F-4 116 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood
Fitch 42479 F-4 117 Box 1884-1899 various 40-50 wood wood

Paint Schemes

References or other data

Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-day Visible? Markings Paint
Scheme Herald Notes

B&MRRHS Bulletin Issue included in "page" column
vIV #3 p26b 41832 1903-03-07 p S1& R R N door and left half of car only. "Air brake" in circle
possibly another 41xxx car is third in string

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Revision History

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