Boston & Maine 65688 Series Box Cars
Index
- Builder's Photo
- Classification Card(s) for series
- Specifications
- ORER data
- ORER Notes
- B&M vs. NH style steel underframe
- Discussion, General Notes
- Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data
- ICC Valuation Data
- Paint Schemes
- References
- Photographs
- Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions
- Modeling
- Revision History of this page
Builder's Photo(s)
65688-66087 sub-class (B&M style SUF)
66088-66337 sub-class (B&M style SUF)
JPEG conversion of WLHG96.tif available in the Laconia Car CD
Image Copyright 2007 WLHG-Company, used with permission (click on image to see full resolution available)
66338-66487 sub-class (B&M style SUF)
66488-66787 sub-class (B&M style SUF)
66788-67787 sub-class (NH style SUF)
JPEG conversion of WLHG63.tif available in the Laconia Car CD
(Note "B" end view is another picture on this CD)
Image Copyright 2007 WLHG-Company, used with permission (click on image to see full resolution available)
67788-68247 sub-class (NH style SUF)
B&M Classification Card(s)
For more info on the classification cards and "webitizing" them, see this web page65688-66087; 66088-66337; 66338-66487; 66488-66787; 68300-68319 (ex-VV); and 68320-68394 (ex-SC) sub-classes (B&M style SUF)
From 1942 class book.Red text was black on original scan, above process removed it entirely, so (as best as I could read it) I re-added it
Note 1: Possibly: "2' - 4⅝" ... " [possibly one car series]
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Back side of previous page also had additional information:
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From 1952 class book.
or NMRO (Scott Whitney) CDs/DVDs
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66788-67787 and 67788-68247 sub-classes (NH style SUF)
From 1942 class book.
Red text was black on original scan, above process removed it entirely, so (as best as I could read it) I re-added it (as much as I could decipher)
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Back side of previous page also had additional information:
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From 1955 class book.
Red text was black on original scan, above process removed it entirely, so (as best as I could read it) I re-added it (as much as I could decipher)
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Specifications From Classification Cards
Additional data from Neubauer, Eric. Pullman-Standard Freight Car Production Including Predecessors (Pullman-Standard Freight Car Production.pdf)
Also from Eric Neubauer - Laconia production data (Laconia.rtf)
Spec 65688-66087 66088-66337 66338-66487 66488-66787 66788-67787 67788-68287 Builder Laconia Keith Lot # 26 28 29 34 35 36 Spec # 217 218 225 251 Order # 543 (cars)
544 (trucks)
(ordered 02-1909)543 (cars)
544 (trucks)
(ordered 02-1909)543 (cars)
544 (trucks)
(ordered 02-1909)590 (cars)
591 (trucks)
(ordered 12-1909)597 (cars)
598 (trucks)
(ordered 01-1910)Quantity 400 250 150 300 1000 500 (80 in 1913, 420 in 1914) Build Date 1908-1909 1910 1910-1911 ?/1913 to 1/1914 Coupler MCB, 5" x 7" shanks Draft Gear Miner Tandem Waugh Miner Tandem Miner A-1 Friction Coupler Butts 9⅛" 6½" 9⅛" 8¼" 6½" Trucks Bettendorf
Per Eric Neubauer - Pressed Steel Railcar Production
(June 2014 "Car of the month") data
Bettendorf order 2871Andrews Arch Bar New Haven type Arch Bar, Drawing 11920 Springs ARA class A Wheel Base 62" 66" 62" 62" Side Bearings friction, 64" center to center, 32½" from rail to top of truck side bearing Description B&M type steel underframe box New Haven type steel underframe box Lt Weight 37,500 lbs (approx) 36,900 lbs (approx) Cubic Cap'y Wood ends 2,467 Cu. Ft. 2,467 Cu. Ft. (ORER)
2,477 Cu. Ft. (B&M class card)Steel ends 2,542 Cu. Ft. 2,506 Cu. Ft. Air Brake 8" x 12" cylinder KC1012 Center Plate ARA contour ARA class XM Side Door (W x H) 6' x 7'-7¼" 6' x 7'-8¾" 6' x 7'-8 9⁄16" Roof Original: Inside metal
Renewals: Murphy XLAEnds Original Wood Steel 7 / 7 stamped steel ("Murphy" style) Journals 4¼" x 8" (60,000 lbs nominal capacity) Added by 1952 class card: Brake Beam #2 [no 1952 class card] For D. Gears, couplers & D. Gear Spacing see Dwg. 15947 Light Weight 40,400 lbs 39,200 Note:
Cars 65688-66087 had underframes built by Bettendorf:
Item Data Date 1909 Bettendorf order 2871 Notes Includes trucks Eric Neubauer data from Laconia data, notes 66488-66787 as "NH design" - per personal communication, this was probably in error
ORER data and numbers
ORER Size Data - 1909-1910 Description 5/1909 Length 36' Width 8'-6" Height 8' Capacity (Pounds) 60000
ORER Size Data Description 8/1910 8/1911 2/1914 5/1925 12/1930 Ends Original Steel
(note K)Steel
(note L)Original Steel
(note K)Steel
(note L)M.C.B. Designation XM (11/1914) XM XM Inside
DimensionsLength 36' 36' 36' 36' 36'-11½" 36'-9⅝" 36' 36'-11" 36'-9" Width 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" 8'-6" Height 8' 8'-0¾" 8'-0¾" 8'-0¾" 8' Outside
DimensionsLength 36'-9¼" 36'-9¼" 36'-9¼" 36'-9¼" 37'-4" 37'-2" 36'-10" 37'-4" 37'-2" Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-7⅜" 9'-7⅜" 9'-7⅜" 9'-7⅜" 9'-8" Extreme Width 9'-7" (by 7/1937) Height
from
RailTo Extreme Width 12'-7" (by 7/1937) To Eaves or top of sides or platform 12' 12' 12'-7" 12'-7" 12'-7" To Top of Running Board 13'-3¾" 13'-3¾" 13'-3¾" 13'-3¾" 13'-4" To Extreme Height 13'-11⅝" 13'-11⅝" 13'-11⅝" 13'-11⅝" 14' Door - Side
openingWidth 6' 6' 6' 6' 6' Height 7'-10⅞" 7'-10⅞" 7'-10⅞" 7'-7" 7'-7" Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 2467 (8/1911) 2467 2467 2467 2542 2506 2467 2542 2506 Pounds 60000 60000 60000 60000 60000
ORER History ORER Date
(Year-Mo.)Car
Numbers# of
CarsDescription 1909 - 05 65688-69999 203 Box, Grain 1909 - 06 " 243 " 1909 - 07 " 344 " 1909 - 08 " 528 " 1909 - 09 " 703 " 1909 - 10 " 790 " 1909 - 11 " 797 " 1910 - 01 " 799 " 1910 - 02 (same) 1910 - 03 (same) 1910 - 04 (same) 1910 - 05 (same) 1910 - 06 " (illegible) " 1910 - 07 " 798 " 1910 - 08 " 855 " 1910 - 09 " 1061 " 1910 - 11 " 1194 " 1910 - 12 " 1360 " 1911 - 02 " 1433 " 1911 - 03 " 1432 " 1911 - 04 " 1538? " 1911 - 05 " 1734 " 1911 - 08 " (illegible) " 1911 - 09 " 2089 " 1911 - 10 (same) 1911 - 11 (same) 1911 - 12 " 2088? " 1912 - 01 " 2087 " 1912 - 02 " (illegible) " 1912 - 03 " 2079 " 1912 - 04 " 2078 " 1912 - 05 " 2076 " 1912 - 06 " 2073 " 1912 - 07 " 2053? " 1912 - 08 " 206x? " 1912 - 09 " (illegible) " 1912 - 10 " (illegible) " 1912 - 11 " 2061 " 1912 - 12 " 2062 " 1913 - 01 " 2061 " 1913 - 02 " 2059 " 1913 - 03 (same) 1913 - 04 " (illegible) " 1913 - 05 " (illegible) " 1913 - 06 " 2059 " 1913 - 07 " 2058 " 1913 - 10 " 2057 " 1913 - 11 (same) 1913 - 12 " (illegible) " 1914 - 01 " 2054 " 1914 - 02 " 2134 " 1914 - 03 " (illegible) " 1914 - 04 " (illegible) " 1914 - 05 " 2543 " 1914 - 06 " 2556 " 1914 - 07 (same) 1914 - 09 " 2554 " 1914 - 10 " (illegible) " 1914 - 11 " 2552 " 1914 - 12 " (illegible) " 1915 - 01 " 2545 " 1915 - 02 " 2544 " 1915 - 03 (same) 1915 - 04 " 2542? Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 1915 - 05 " 2542? " 1915 - 10 " 2537 " 1915 - 11 " 2536 " 1915 - 12 " 2537 " 1916 - 01 " 2536 " 1916 - 02 " 2537 " 1916 - 03 " (illegible) " 1916 - 04 " 2537 " 1916 - 05 " (illegible) " 1916 - 06 " 2537 " 1916 - 07 " 2537 " 1916 - 08 " 2532 " 1916 - 09 " (illegible) " 1916 - 10 " 2532 " 1916 - 11 " (illegible) " 1916 - 12 " 2529 " 1917 - 01 " 2526 " 1917 - 02 " 2527 " 1917 - 03 (same) 1917 - 04 " 2527? " 1917 - 05 " 2527 " 1917 - 06 " 2525 " 1917 - 10 " (illegible) " 1917 - 11 " 2523 " 1919 - 10 " 2507 " 1920 - 01 65688-68287 2502 " 1921 - 05 " 2486 " 1921 - 12 " 2483 " 1922 - 08 " 2480 " 1922 - 11 (same) 1923 - 02 (same) 1924 - 11 " 2473 " 1925 - 05 65688-68287 1764 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 279 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K) 427 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L) 1925 - 07 65688-68287 1758 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 285 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K) 427 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L) 1925 - 10 65688-68287 1755 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 287 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K) 427 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L) 1926 - 08 65688-68287 1730 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 300 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K) 438 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L) 1926 - 10 65688-68287 1730 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 300 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K) 438 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L) B&M and MTC cars listed separately 1927 - 06 B&M 65688-68287 1591 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 372 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 521 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 … Box, Grain, Steel Underframe … Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) … Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1927 - 08 B&M 65688-68287 1579 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 376 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 527 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 … Box, Grain, Steel Underframe … Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) … Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1928 - 07 B&M 65688-68287 1471 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 400 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 561 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1928 - 08 B&M 65688-68287 1467 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 400 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 563 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1928 - 09 B&M 65688-68287 1467 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 400 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 564 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1928 - 10 (same) (all 6 rows) 1928 - 11 (same) (all 6 rows) 1928 - 12 B&M 65688-68287 1467 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 399 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 564 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1929 - 01 B&M 65688-68287 1466? Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 399 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 564 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1929 - 02 B&M 65688-68287 1467 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 399 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 564 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1929 - 03 B&M 65688-68287 1467 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 400 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 565 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1929 - 04 B&M 65688-68287 1465 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 400 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 568 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1929 - 05 B&M 65688-68287 1456 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 400 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 577 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1929 - 06 B&M 65688-68287 1457 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 400 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 577 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1929 - 07 B&M 65688-68287 1451 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 405 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 577 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1929 - 08 (same) (all 6 rows) 1929 - 09 B&M 65688-68287 1452 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 405 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 577 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1929 - 10 B&M 65688-68287 1451 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 405 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 577 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1929 - 11 (same) (all 6 rows) 1929 - 12 (same) (all 6 rows) 1930 - 01 B&M 65688-68287 1452 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 405 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 577 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1930 - 02 (same) (all 6 rows) 1930 - 03 B&M 65688-68287 1453 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 405 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 577 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1930 - 04 B&M 65688-68287 1455 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 405 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 577 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1930 - 05 B&M 65688-68287 1454 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 405 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 577 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1930 - 06 B&M 65688-68287 1454 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 404 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 575 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1930 - 07 (same) (all 6 rows) 1930 - 08 (same) (all 6 rows) 1930 - 09 B&M 65688-68287 1454 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 403 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 575 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1930 - 10 B&M 65688-68287 1450 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 403 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 575 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 42 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1930 - 11 B&M 65688-68287 1448 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 403 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 575 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 42 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1930 - 12 B&M 65688-68287 1448 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 403 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 574 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 42 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1931 - 01 (same) (all 6 rows) 1931 - 02 B&M 65688-68287 1452 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 402 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 574 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 37 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1931 - 03 (same) (all 6 rows) 1931 - 04 (same) (all 6 rows) 1931 - 05 (same) (all 6 rows) 1931 - 06 (same) (all 6 rows) 1931 - 07 (same) (all 6 rows) 1931 - 08 (same) (all 6 rows) 1931 - 09 (same) (all 6 rows) 1931 - 10 (same) (all 6 rows) 1931 - 11 (same) (all 6 rows) 1932 - 01 B&M 65688-68287 1451 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 402 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 574 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 37 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1932 - 02 B&M 65688-68287 1450 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 402 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 574 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 37 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1932 - 03 B&M 65688-68287 1451 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 402 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 574 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 37 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1932 - 04 (same) (all 6 rows) 1932 - 05 (same) (all 6 rows) 1932 - 06 (same) (all 6 rows) Switch to Bi-monthly 1932 - 07 B&M 65688-68287 1451 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 402 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K①) 574 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L①) MTC 65688-68287 37 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K②) 8 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L②) 1932 - 09 [no changes noted] 1932 - 11 [no changes noted] 1933 - 01 [no changes noted] 1933 - 03 [no changes noted] 1933 - 05 [no changes noted] B&M and MTC combined under B&M 1933 - 07 B&M 65688-68287 1484 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 406 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K) 582 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L) 1933 - 09 [no changes noted] 1933 - 11 [no changes noted] 1934 - 01 [no changes noted] 1934 - 03 [no changes noted] 1934 - 05 [no changes noted] 1934 - 07 B&M 65688-68287 1472 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 395 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note K) 576 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note L) 1934 - 09 [no changes noted] 1934 - 11 [no changes noted] 1935 - 01 [no changes noted] 1935 - 03 [no changes noted] 1935 - 05 [no changes noted] 1935 - 07 B&M 65688-68287 1335 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 371 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note H) 532 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note J) 1935 - 09 [no changes noted] 1935 - 11 [no changes noted] 1936 - 01 [no changes noted] 1936 - 03 [no changes noted] 1936 - 05 [no changes noted] 1936 - 07 B&M 65688-68287 1287 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 350 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note H) 516 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note J) 1936 - 09 [no changes noted] 1936 - 11 [no changes noted] 1937 - 01 [no changes noted] 1937 - 03 [no changes noted] 1937 - 05 [no changes noted] Switch to Quarterly 1937 - 07 B&M 65688-68287 1057 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 315 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note H) 443 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note J) 1937 - 10 B&M 65688-68287 982 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 305 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note H) 414 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note J) 1938 - 01 B&M 65688-68287 958 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 300 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note H) 403 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note J) 1938 - 04 B&M 65688-68287 950 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 298 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note H) 392 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note J) 1938 - 07 B&M 65688-68287 941 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 296 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note H) 287 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note J) 1938 - 10 B&M 65688-68287 934 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 295? Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note H) 385? Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note J) 1939 - 01 B&M 65688-68287 791 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 267 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note H) 331 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note J) 1939 - 04 B&M 65688-68287 712 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 248 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note H) 306 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note J) 1939 - 07 B&M 65688-68287 425 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 185 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 153 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1939 - 10 B&M 65688-68287 328 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 147 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 113 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1940 - 01 B&M 65688-68287 258 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 124 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 87 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1940 - 04 B&M 65688-68281 230 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 115 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 85 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1940 - 07 (same) (all 6 rows) 1940 - 10 B&M 65688-68281 146 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 72 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 38 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1941 - 01 B&M 65688-68281 125 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 68 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 20 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1941 - 04 B&M 65688-68281 118? Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 62 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 25 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1941 - 07 B&M 65688-68281 115 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 59 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 22 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1941 - 10 B&M 65688-68281 114 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 59 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 20 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1942 - 01 B&M 65688-68281 110 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 54 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 17 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1942 - 04 B&M 65688-68247 87 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 50 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 11 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1942 - 07 B&M 65688-68247 81 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 49 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 10 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1942 - 10 B&M 65688-68247 77 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 48 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 7 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1943 - 01 B&M 65688-68247 72 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 47 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 7 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1943 - 04 B&M 65688-68247 68 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 47 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 7 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1943 - 07 (same) (all 3 rows) 1943 - 10 B&M 65688-68247 66 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 47 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 7 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1944 - 01 B&M 65688-68247 64 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 45 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 6 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1944 - 04 B&M 65688-68247 65 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 44 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) [yes, reverse of previous] 5 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) [yes, reverse of previous] 1944 - 07 B&M 65688-68247 63 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 44 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1944 - 10 B&M 65688-68247 63 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 44 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 3 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1945 - 01 (same) (all 3 rows) 1945 - 04 B&M 65688-68247 61 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 44 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 3 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1945 - 07 (same) (all 3 rows) 1945 - 10 B&M 65688-68247 61 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 44 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 2 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1946 - 01 B&M 65688-68247 55 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 37 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 2 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1946 - 04 B&M 65688-68247 48 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 33 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 2 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1946 - 07 B&M 65688-68247 47 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 30 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 2 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1946 - 10 B&M 65688-68247 36 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 25 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 2 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1947 - 01 B&M 65688-68247 21 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 19 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 2 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1947 - 04 B&M 65688-68247 18 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 19 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note G) 1 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1947 - 07 B&M 65795-67902 6 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 13 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note E) 1947 - 10 B&M 65795-67902 4 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe 13 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note F) 1 Box, Grain, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note E) 1948 - 01 65795-66462 5 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (see exceptions) (ORER Note B)
[same dimensions as "36'-11" inside length column]66064 1 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (exception)
[same dimensions as "Original ends"]1948 - 04 65795,66462 2 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (ORER Note B) 1948 - 07 (same) 1948 - 10 Not listed
ORER Notes
NOTE: The car numbers listed will change to reflect what is shown in the main ORER listing - I am NOT showing all those variations!Steel Ends - 36 ft. 11 in. (B&M style SUF)
Note K (5/1925 - 10/1926)
Individual numbers of cars in series 65688 to 68287 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensional and cubical capacity from other numbers in same series. Actual inside length, 36 ft. 11½ in. (These cars are stencilled 37 ft.) Capacity 2542 cu. ft.: [see table below]Note K (12/1930 - 7/1934)
Individual numbers of cars in series B&M 65688 to 68287 and series M.T.C. 65688 to 68287 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensional and cubical capacity from other numbers in same series. Actual inside length, 36 ft. 11 in. (These cars are stencilled 37 ft.) Capacity 2542 cu. ft.: [see table below]ORER Note H (7/1935 - 7/1938)
ORER Note F (1/1940-1/1943)
ORER Note G (4/1944 - 1/1947)
ORER Note B (1/1948 - 7/1948)Individual numbers of cars in series 65688 to 68287 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensional and cubical capacity from other numbers in same series. Actual inside length, 36 ft. 11 in. (These cars are stencilled 37 ft.) Capacity 2542 cu. ft.: [see table below]
Steel Ends - 36 ft. 11 in.
NOTE: Incomplete data before 7/1928 - will be updated once I get that dataRR Car # End Applied By Last Listed First NOT
listed in192x-1925 1926-1928 192x-1930 1931-1935 1936-1940 1941-1945 1946-1950 B&M 65688 by 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1946 1/1947 65693 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 65695 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 65697 by 5/1925 → → 7/1933 7/1934 65699 by 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1946 10/1946 65705 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 65708 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 65710 by 7/1928 → → 7/1940 10/1940 65719 by 5/1925 → → 7/1933 7/1934 65722 by 5/1925 → 11/1928 12/1928 65730 by 10/1926 → → 7/1936 7/1937 65733 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 65735 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1941 7/1941 65741 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 65744 by 7/1928 → → 1/1939 4/1939 65750 by 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1946 10/1946 65752 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 65757 by 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1946 4/1946 65762 by 7/1928 → → 10/1937 1/1938 65764 by 7/1928 → → → → 1/1946 4/1946 B&M 65778 by 7/1928 → → 7/1936 7/1937 65781 by 5/1925 → → → → 10/1945 1/1946 65787 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 65795 by 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1948 10/1948 65800 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1940 4/1940 65802 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 65812 by 5/1925 → → → → 1/1942 4/1942 65813 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1938 7/1938 65816 by 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1948 4/1948 65820 by 10/1926 → → 10/1938 1/1939 65824 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 65826 by 5/1925 → → → → 10/1943 1/1944 65828 by 7/1928 → → → → 4/1946 7/1946 65831 by 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1946 10/1946 65836 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 65838 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 65840 by 7/1928 → → 10/1939 1/1940 65844 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1942 1/1943 65845 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1943 1/1944 65846 by 7/1928 → → 7/1940 10/1940 B&M 65848 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 65850 by 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1946 10/1946 65852 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 65854 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 65855 by 10/1926 → → 7/1940 10/1940 65856 by 7/1928 → 7/1933 7/1934 65859 by 7/1928 → → 7/1940 10/1940 65861 by 7/1928 → → 7/1940 10/1940 65863 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 65864 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 65865 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 65866 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 65868 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 65871 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 65878 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 65879 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 65880 by 7/1928 → → 10/1940 1/1941 65881 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 65883 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 65886 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 B&M 65891 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 65892 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1945 1/1946 65894 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 65895 by 5/1925 → → → → 10/1945 1/1946 65909 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939 65915 by 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1947 10/1947 65921 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 65924 by 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1946 1/1947 65935 † 10/1926 → → 1/1940 4/1940 65936 by 5/1925 → → → → 10/1945 1/1946 65941 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 65942 by 5/1925 → → → → 10/1941 1/1942 65943 by 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1947 7/1947 65947 by 10/1926 → → 10/1938 1/1939 65948 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1937 1/1938 65949 by 7/1928 → → → → 10/1946 1/1947 65957 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 65958 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 65959 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939 65960 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 65962 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1940 4/1940 65963 by 7/1928 → → → → 10/1947 1/1948 65964 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 65966 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 65967 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 65976 7/1929 → → → 10/1945 1/1946 65978 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 65980 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 65981 by 10/1926 → → → 1/1942 4/1942 65985 by 10/1926 → → 7/1940 10/1940 65987 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 65995 by 5/1925 → 8/1930 9/1930 65996 by 5/1925 → → 7/1933 7/1934 65997 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66001 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66003 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66004 by 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1947 7/1947 66011 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66022 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66023 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935 B&M 66024 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66028 by 7/1928 → → 7/1937 10/1937 66032 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66034 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1940 4/1940 66039 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1940 4/1940 66041 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66045 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66048 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66050 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66054 by 5/1925 → → → → 10/1945 1/1946 66055 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66056 by 5/1925 → → → → 10/1941 1/1942 66057 by 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1946 7/1946 66059 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66060 by 7/1928 → → 7/1937 10/1937 66061 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1940 4/1940 66062 by 7/1928 → → 7/1940 10/1940 66067 by 7/1928 → → 7/1939 10/1939 66075 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66076 by 7/1928 → → 1/1939 4/1939 B&M 66079 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66084 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66089 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66092 by 10/1926 → 7/1934 7/1935 66093 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1940 4/1940 66095 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66100 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1941 1/1942 66105 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66106 by 10/1926 → → 10/1939 1/1940 66107 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 66117 by 7/1928 → → 7/1940 10/1940 66118 by 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1947 1/1948 66129 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66131 by 7/1928 → → 7/1937 10/1937 66134 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66135 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66141 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1945 1/1946 66144 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66145 by 7/1928 → → 10/1937 1/1938 66147 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 66148 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66153 by 10/1926 → → 7/1936 7/1937 66155 by 7/1928 → → 10/1939 1/1940 66156 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66163 by 5/1925 → → 7/1933 7/1934 66164 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1938 4/1938 66171 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66172 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66174 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66179 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66180 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66181 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66183 by 7/1928 → → 1/1939 4/1939 66184 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66185 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66192 by 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1947 7/1947 66208 by 7/1928 → → → → 7/1946 10/1946 66210 by 7/1928 → → 7/1936 7/1937 66212 by 7/1928 → → 7/1936 7/1937 66213 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 B&M 66214 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1940 1/1941 66217 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66219 by 10/1926 → → 1/1939 4/1939 66225 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66229 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66231 by 5/1925 → → → → 1/1941 4/1941 66232 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66235 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66237 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66238 by 7/1928 → → 7/1939 10/1939 66243 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1941 7/1941 66249 by 7/1928 → → 7/1938 10/1938 66250 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66251 by 10/1926 → → → → 10/1946 1/1947 66252 by 7/1928 → → 10/1939 1/1940 66254 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66260 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1940 1/1941 66262 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935 66263 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66265 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 66266 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66271 by 7/1928 → → 7/1939 10/1939 66273 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1938 7/1938 66274 by 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1947 1/1948 66277 by 5/1925 → → → → 7/1942 10/1942 66279 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66280 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66283 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66287 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1940 1/1941 66289 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66293 by 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1947 7/1947 66296 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66300 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66306 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66308 by 7/1928 → → 7/1940 10/1940 66312 by 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1946 4/1946 66314 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66316 by 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1946 1/1947 66320 by 7/1928 → 7/1933 7/1934 66322 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 B&M 66324 by 7/1928 → → 7/1936 7/1937 66326 7/1929 → → → → 10/1947 1/1948 66327 by 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1946 1/1947 66330 by 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1947 7/1947 66333 7/1929 → → → 1/1942 4/1942 66336 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66338 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66339 by 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1948 4/1948 66343 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66346 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66347 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66354 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66356 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66357 by 7/1928 → → 1/1940 4/1940 MTC 66359 by 5/1925 → → → → 4/1941 7/1941 B&M 66360 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935 66361 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66363 by 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1946 4/1946 66364 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66367 by 7/1928 → → 10/1940 1/1941 66371 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66372 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66373 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66375 by 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1947 10/1947 66377 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66380 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66381 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66384 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66385 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66392 by 7/1928 → → 7/1940 10/1940 66394 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66395 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66398 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 MTC 66399 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1940 4/1940 B&M 66400 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 MTC 66404 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 B&M 66407 by 5/1925 → 5/1930 6/1930 66408 by 10/1926 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66409 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66413 by 5/1925 → → → → 10/1941 1/1942 66414 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1937 1/1938 66415 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66416 by 5/1925 → → → → 4/1942 7/1942 66418 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935 66419 by 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1947 1/1948 66420 by 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1947 7/1947 66422 by 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1948 4/1948 66430 by 10/1926 → → 7/1936 7/1937 66431 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66432 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66436 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66439 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1937 1/1938 66440 by 7/1928 → 7/1933 7/1934 66442 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66443 by 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1946 7/1946 66444 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 66446 by 7/1928 → → 7/1940 10/1940 66447 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66449 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1941 1/1942 66459 by 7/1928 → → 7/1936 7/1937 66462 by 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1948 10/1948 66465 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66467 by 5/1925 → → 7/1933 7/1934 66468 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66469 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66470 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66471 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66473 by 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1947 1/1948 66474 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1937 1/1938 66475 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66476 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1937 1/1938 66483 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66490 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66491 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66492 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66494 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 B&M 66495 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66498 by 5/1925 → → → → 1/1942 4/1942 66501 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66508 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66515 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66516 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66519 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66521 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66522 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66523 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66529 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66531 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66533 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66534 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66538 by 7/1928 → → 10/1939 1/1940 66544 by 7/1928 → → 7/1937 10/1937 66545 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66551 by 7/1928 → 7/1935 7/1936 66554 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66555 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 B&M 66557 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66558 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935 66560 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66561 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66562 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 66564 by 7/1928 → → 10/1939 1/1940 66565 by 7/1928 → → 7/1936 7/1937 66566 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66567 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66571 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66573 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66574 by 10/1926 → → 1/1938 4/1938 66577 by 10/1926 → → 7/1936 7/1937 66578 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66579 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66582 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66585 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66586 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66587 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66596 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 B&M 66599 by 7/1928 → → 7/1939 10/1939 66600 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66601 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66602 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935 66605 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66607 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66608 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66609 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66611 by 10/1926 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66612 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66613 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66616 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66620 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66621 by 7/1928 → → 10/1939 1/1940 66623 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66625 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66628 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66629 by 5/1925 → → 7/1934 7/1935 66635 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66636 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 66640 by 5/1925 → → 7/1933 7/1934 66641 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66642 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66643 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66644 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66645 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66646 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 MTC 66647 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 66652 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66655 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66656 by 5/1925 → → → → 1/1941 4/1941 66659 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935 66660 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66662 by 7/1928 → → 7/1936 7/1937 66665 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66666 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66667 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66669 by 10/1926 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66670 by 5/1925 → → → → 1/1941 4/1941 66671 by 10/1926 → → 7/1939 10/1939 66676 by 7/1928 → → 10/1939 1/1940 66677 7/1929 → → 1/1939 4/1939 66680 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66681 by 7/1928 → → 7/1937 10/1937 66688 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66690 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66692 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66693 by 7/1928 → → 1/1939 4/1939 B&M 66694 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66696 by 7/1928 → 7/1935 7/1936 66697 by 7/1928 → 7/1935 7/1936 66699 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66700 by 10/1926 → → 7/1940 10/1940 66706 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 66707 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66708 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66709 7/1929 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66712 by 5/1925 → → → → 1/1941 4/1941 66715 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66717 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66718 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66720 by 5/1925 → → 1/1931 2/1931 66721 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66723 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66724 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66725 by 5/1925 → → 7/1935 7/1936 66727 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66728 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935 B&M 66732 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66736 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66737 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66739 by 7/1928 → → 7/1939 10/1939 66743 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66745 by 5/1925 → → → → 1/1941 4/1941 66750 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66753 by 7/1928 → → 7/1936 7/1937 66757 by 7/1928 → → 7/1939 10/1939 66758 by 7/1928 → → 10/1938 1/1939 66760 by 5/1925 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66761 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66764 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935 66765 by 7/1928 → → 1/1939 4/1939 66767 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66768 by 7/1928 → → 7/1937 10/1937 66769 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66770 by 5/1925 → → → → 1/1944 4/1944 66776 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66777 by 10/1926 → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 66778 by 5/1925 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66779 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66784 by 5/1925 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 66785 by 7/1928 → 7/1935 7/1936 66787 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66844 by 5/1925 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67858 ‡ by 10/1926 [see note below, and "Note L" table] † - Was in ORER "Note J" (64680 series) through 11/1930
‡ - NOTE: 67858 is a NH style steel underframe car.
I believe it was a typo when it was listed in ORER "Note K" (et al.).
By 7/1928 it was moved to the "36 ft. 9 in. (NH style SUF)" ORER "Note L" (et al.) (see below)Steel Ends - 36 ft. 9 in. (NH style SUF)
ORER Note L (5/1925 - 10/1926)
Individual numbers of cars in series 65688 to 68287 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensional and cubical capacity from other numbers in same series. Actual inside length, 36 ft. 9⅝ in. (These cars are stencilled 36 ft. 10 in.) Capacity 2506 cu. ft.: [see table below]Note L (12/1930 - 7/1934)
Individual numbers of cars in series B&M 65688 to 68287 and series M.T.C. 65688 to 68287 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensional and cubical capacity from other numbers in same series. Actual inside length, 36 ft. 9 in. (These cars are stencilled 36 ft. 10 in.) Capacity 2506 cu. ft.: [see table below]ORER Note J (7/1935 - 7/1938)
ORER Note G (1/1940-1/1943)
ORER Note F (4/1944 - 1/1945)Individual numbers of cars in series 65688 to 68287 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensional and cubical capacity from other numbers in same series. Actual inside length, 36 ft. 9 in. (These cars are stencilled 36 ft. 10 in.) Capacity 2506 cu. ft.: [see table below]
Steel Ends - 36 ft. 9 in.
NOTE: Incomplete data before 7/1928 - will be updated once I get that dataRR Car # End Applied By Last Listed First NOT
listed in192x-1925 1926-1928 By 12/1930 192x-1930 1931-1935 1936-1940 1941-1945 1946-1950 B&M 66792 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 66793 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1941 10/1941 66796 5/1925 → → → → 10/1937 1/1938 66799 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66800 5/1925 → → → → 10/1940 1/1941 66801 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66809 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66810 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 66823 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 66824 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66826 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 66829 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 66835 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66840 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66852 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66855 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 66860 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66861 8/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66863 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 66866 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 B&M 66870 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66877 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66880 10/1926 → → → 10/1940 1/1941 66882 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66884 5/1925 → → → → → → 1/1947 4/1947 66894 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 66898 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66900 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66902 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66904 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 66905 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66915 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66918 5/1925 → → → → 10/1937 1/1938 66919 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1942 10/1942 66923 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66925 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66926 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 66928 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66930 5/1925 → → → → 7/1938 10/1938 66931 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 66933 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1938 10/1938 66937 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66938 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66940 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66942 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 66943 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66947 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 66954 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66955 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 66958 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66960 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 66966 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1941 1/1942 66969 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66975 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 66978 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66980 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66981 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66983 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 66984 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 66987 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 B&M 66988 5/1929 → → 4/1939 7/1939 66991 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 66992 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 66998 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 66999 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67001 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67004 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67007 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67009 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67012 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67013 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67014 10/1926 → → 7/1935 7/1936 67024 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67028 5/1925 → → → → 4/1938 7/1938 67030 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67032 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1942 4/1942 67033 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67036 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 67037 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67038 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 B&M 67042 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67043 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67044 5/1925 → → by 7/1928 [7/1928?] 67045 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67050 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 67052 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67053 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67054 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67055 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67058 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67061 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67062 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67063 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67064 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67071 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67078 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67079 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67080 5/1929 → → 10/1939 1/1940 67081 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67082 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 B&M 67091 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1943 1/1944 67097 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67100 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1938 4/1938 67101 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67106 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67109 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67111 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67115 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67116 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67117 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 67118 8/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67119 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67123 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67134 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1942 10/1942 67135 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 67136 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67140 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67142 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1944 4/1944 67143 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67144 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 67145 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 67146 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67153 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67155 by 7/1928 → → 7/1933 7/1934 67156 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67159 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67160 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67161 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67164 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67166 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67170 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67171 5/1925 → → → → 1/1940 4/1940 67172 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67173 4/1929 → → 7/1940 10/1940 67177 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67179 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67180 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67182 4/1929 → → 7/1937 10/1937 67184 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67185 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 67186 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67188 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67190 5/1929 → → 7/1940 10/1940 67194 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1941 10/1941 67195 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67197 5/1925 → → 5/1930 6/1930 67198 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67199 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67201 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67202 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67203 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67204 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67205 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67206 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 67208 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67210 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67212 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 67216 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67217 5/1925 → → → → 10/1937 1/1938 67226 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 67230 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67231 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67238 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67241 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67243 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67246 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67248 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1942 4/1942 67251 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67254 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67262 by 7/1928 → → → → 7/1945 10/1945 67263 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67264 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67265 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67267 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67268 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67276 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67277 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67280 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67281 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67282 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 B&M 67283 5/1925 → → → → 10/1940 1/1941 67285 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67286 5/1925 → → → → 10/1937 1/1938 67287 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67288 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67290 5/1929 → → 4/1939 7/1939 67291 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67300 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67304 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67308 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67311 5/1929 → → 4/1939 7/1939 67315 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67316 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67318 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67319 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67320 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1940 1/1941 67323 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67324 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67326 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 B&M 67327 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67333 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67334 4/1929 → → 4/1939 7/1939 67335 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1938 4/1938 67351 5/1925 → → → → 1/1940 4/1940 67352 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67353 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67356 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67358 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67360 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67364 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67366 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67368 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67373 5/1929 → 7/1934 7/1935 67375 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67378 5/1925 → → → → 10/1940 1/1941 MTC 67381 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 67382 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67384 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67389 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 MTC 67395 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 B&M 67397 10/1926 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67399 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67402 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67407 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67409 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67414 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67417 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67418 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67422 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67429 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67432 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67434 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67441 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67443 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 MTC 67445 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 B&M 67448 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67449 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67451 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67453 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67454 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67455 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67457 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67461 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67464 by 7/1928 → → → → 1/1941 4/1941 67465 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67469 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67470 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67471 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67480 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67482 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67483 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67485 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67486 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67487 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67491 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 67494 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67495 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1940 1/1941 67499 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67500 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 67503 by 7/1928 → → 7/1935 7/1936 67505 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67506 5/1925 → → → → 10/1940 1/1941 67508 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67510 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67512 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67515 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67516 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67518 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67519 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67520 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67525 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67528 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67531 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67532 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67536 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 67537 5/1925 → → 11/1930 12/1930 67538 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67545 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67546 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67550 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67551 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67553 5/1925 → → → → → 7/1942 10/1942 67560 8/1928 → → → 10/1937 1/1938 67563 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67565 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67567 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67568 5/1929 → → 4/1939 7/1939 67571 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1942 7/1942 67573 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67574 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67575 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67576 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67578 5/1925 → → → → 10/1937 1/1938 67579 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67581 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 B&M 67593 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1941 4/1941 67594 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1942 4/1942 67595 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67596 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67599 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67606 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67607 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67614 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67616 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 MTC 67617 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 67618 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67620 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67622 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67624 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67625 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 MTC 67627 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 B&M 67630 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67632 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67635 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67636 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67638 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67639 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67644 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67648 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67649 5/1929 → → 10/1939 1/1940 67652 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67654 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67655 5/1925 → → → → 10/1937 1/1938 67657 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67659 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1941 1/1942 67661 5/1929 → → 10/1938 1/1939 MTC 67662 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 B&M 67669 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67671 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67672 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67674 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67676 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67677 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67679 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67683 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 67690 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67692 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67695 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67698 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67700 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67703 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67704 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67705 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67706 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67707 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67708 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 MTC 67711 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 B&M 67713 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1941 4/1941 67716 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67720 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 67722 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67723 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67724 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67726 5/1925 → → → → 1/1938 4/1938 67730 by 7/1928 → → 7/1935 7/1936 67733 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67735 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67739 5/1925 → → → 7/1933 7/1934 67740 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67744 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67748 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67752 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67757 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67759 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 67761 5/1925 → → → → 1/1938 4/1938 67766 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67767 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 B&M 67768 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67772 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67777 5/1925 → → → → 10/1937 1/1938 67782 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67784 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67789 10/1926 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67792 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67796 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67800 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67804 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67805 5/1925 → → → → → 10/1941 1/1942 67806 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67807 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1938 4/1938 67810 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1938 4/1938 67811 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67815 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67816 5/1925 → → 5/1930 6/1930 67817 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67821 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67822 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 B&M 67824 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67825 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67828 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67830 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67831 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67836 5/1925 → → → → 10/1937 1/1938 67839 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67841 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67842 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67848 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 67856 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67857 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67858 * 10/1926 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67860 10/1926 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67864 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67865 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67868 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67874 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67875 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 MTC 67876 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 B&M 67877 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 67881 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67882 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 67883 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67892 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67893 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67900 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67901 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67902 by 7/1928 → → → → → 10/1947 1/1948 67904 10/1926 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67905 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67909 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67911 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67912 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67913 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67914 5/1925 → → → → 4/1938 7/1938 67916 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67918 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67919 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67922 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 B&M 67924 5/1925 → → → → 4/1938 7/1938 67929 5/1925 → → → → 1/1938 4/1938 67933 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67937 10/1926 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67944 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 67947 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 67948 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67949 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 67953 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 67955 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 67956 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67959 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67961 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67963 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67967 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67969 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67971 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67973 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67976 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 67977 5/1925 → → → → 10/1937 1/1938 B&M 67980 10/1926 → → 7/1935 7/1936 67981 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67983 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67986 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 67987 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 67988 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 67990 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 67998 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68001 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68002 5/1925 → → by 7/1928 [7/1928?] 68004 by 7/1928 → → 7/1935 7/1936 68013 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68014 by 7/1928 → → → → 7/1944 10/1944 68015 5/1925 → → → → 10/1940 1/1941 68017 10/1926 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68019 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68021 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68022 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 68024 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68027 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 B&M 68029 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68031 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68034 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68036 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 68040 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 68041 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68044 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 68050 10/1926 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68053 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68055 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68056 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 68061 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68062 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 68065 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68066 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68067 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68070 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68071 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 68073 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68075 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 B&M 68076 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68078 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68081 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68082 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 68084 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68085 5/1925 → → → 7/1933 7/1934 68086 by 7/1928 → → → → 4/1941 7/1941 68088 †† 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68089 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68091 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68093 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68094 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 69096 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68098 5/1925 → → → → 4/1938 7/1938 68102 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 68106 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 68107 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68108 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 68109 5/1925 → → → 7/1933 7/1934 68110 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 B&M 68111 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 68117 5/1925 → → → → 7/1937 10/1937 68118 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1942 4/1942 68120 10/1926 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68122 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1942 4/1942 68127 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68128 5/1925 → → → 7/1935 7/1936 68133 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68138 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 68139 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 68141 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68142 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 68143 5/1925 → → → → 1/1938 4/1938 68144 5/1925 → → → → 4/1938 7/1938 68146 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68147 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68154 by 7/1928 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68155 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1937 1/1938 68158 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 68159 10/1926 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 B&M 68160 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68161 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68176 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68181 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68186 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 68190 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68191 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68196 by 7/1928 → → → 1/1939 4/1939 68197 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1937 10/1937 68198 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1941 7/1941 68199 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68200 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68202 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 68203 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1937 1/1938 68206 by 7/1928 → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68210 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 68212 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 68214 by 7/1928 → → → → 1/1941 4/1941 68216 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68217 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 B&M 68222 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68223 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1941 7/1941 68224 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68225 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68230 5/1925 → → → → → 1/1942 4/1942 68232 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 68233 by 7/1928 → → 7/1934 7/1935 68236 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68238 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940 68239 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68240 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68241 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68244 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68245 5/1925 → → → → 10/1940 1/1941 68247 5/1925 → → → → → 4/1944 7/1944 68248 5/1925 → → → 7/1934 7/1935 68249 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68258 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 68259 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68261 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 B&M 68262 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 68263 5/1925 → → → → 7/1939 10/1939 68264 5/1925 → → → → 1/1939 4/1939 68265 5/1925 → → → 7/1933 7/1934 68266 5/1925 → → → → 7/1940 10/1940 68268 10/1926 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68269 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68271 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68272 10/1926 → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68273 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68276 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68279 5/1925 → → → → 7/1936 7/1937 68280 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68281 5/1925 → → → → 10/1939 1/1940 68282 5/1925 → → → → 1/1938 4/1938 68283 5/1925 → → → → 10/1938 1/1939 68284 5/1925 → → → → 7/1938 10/1938 68286 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 68287 5/1925 → → → → 4/1939 7/1939 * - Was listed in ORER "Note K", moved to "Note L" by 7/1928
†† - From 7/1937 to 1/1938, this car was listed twice
B&M vs. New Haven style steel underframe
The "Wood body" Steel underframe box cars (the series this web page covers, plus some other series as shown in the table) had two distinct underframe designs, named per the car classification cards (all are 30 ton except as noted, original ends except as noted):
Car Series Capacity (Cu.Ft.) # of cars Steel Underframe type car card ORER Steel end SUF box cars in OTHER series in the ORER 12100-12299 (XA) 2467 2467 2542 300 "B&M" design 12300-12399 (XA) 64680-65687 (40 Ton) 1008 VV 213-232
(later B&M 68300-68319)100 SC 790-863
(later B&M 68320-68399)SUF box cars in THIS series 65688-66787 2467 2467 2542 1100 "B&M" design 66788-68287 2477 2467 2506 1500 "New Haven" design SUF Boxcar Total 4008
While the different underframe designs are shown separately on the classification cards (see above), this series (65688-68287) was ONE listing in the ORERs unless the steel ends were applied. So (other than the initial build counts) we don't know how many cars of the each underframe design with "Original" ends survived until the cars were retired.Note there were also 250 reefers (12800-13049 series) with NH style steel underframes.
This section of the web page is meant as a starting point for discussion, to (at least) point out the major differences between the underframe designs. In the absence of drawings, we have, from photographic evidence, been able to discern 2 differences - the end sill and the side sill.
B&M Style end sill (65688-66787)
Picture of B&M style underframe. Note that visually, end sill is just a channel with the legs "out":
(Cropped from a Dave Parker photo, taken 2015-05-10, Private collection in VT. Note steel end has been applied.)NH Style end sill (66788-68287)
Picture of NH style underframe end sill:
(Cropped from a Dave Parker photo, Lincoln, NH, taken 2018-05-29. Note steel end has been applied.)
Original image in BM-RR@groups.io, post by Dave dated "Mon, 04 May 2020 18:45:56 PDT" attachment "DSCF0591.jpg")Another good image is this one on the B&MRRHS "Flickr" page (also listed in photo section below)
B&M Style side sill (65688-66787)
Cropped from the "Builder's photo" of 66169 above:
Note how the side sill extends all the way to the end of the car. This can also be seen in the photo used above for the end sill.
Note: differences in the step hanging down are due to safety appliance act of 1911.
If you look at the "end sill" picture just above, you will note the B&M style SUF car has the same steps as the NH style car below.NH Style side sill (66788-68287)
Cropped from the "Builder's photo" of 67771 above
Cropped from Dave Parker photo, Lincoln, NH, taken 2018-05-29
Note how the side sill "stops" at the body bolster (above the truck)
I would suspect there is something (an "L"?), hidden by the sheathing, along the side, between the bolster and end sill. But as I don't have a better photo or a drawing available, that is speculationNote: differences in the steps hanging down in the builder's photos are due to changes required by the safety appliance act of 1911.
If you look at the "end sill" picture just above (existing car), you will note the B&M style SUF car has the same steps as the NH style car in the Laconia picture.Note in the Dave Parker photo the wheels were made by different manufacturers.
Discussion, General Notes
- Note these cars were built in at least 8 groups, along with 2 "special service" groups
- Note: the following also applies to the #12100-12299 and #12300-12399 series cars, and SC #790-869, and VV #213-232
Following is paraphrased from Tim Gilbert:Because of differences in the end designs, the earlier series #65688-66687 [B&M design], had 39 feet more cubic capacity when the 7/7 stamped steel ends were installed than the later series #66788-68247 [NH design].Re: the #66788-68247 series, per Tim Gilbert:
While the ORERs listed that these cars as built with wooden ends had the B&M standard as-built 2,467 feet cubic capacity, the B&M class card showed 2,477 cubic feet. The New Haven, which built about 14,000 cars to this design, listed the cubic capacity as 2,448 feet.- [KGA] presumably the NH design was chosen as a standardization move as the New Haven gained control over the B&M.
- [KGA] Without doing a statistical analysis, from the retirement dates of the steel end cars, it seems like the B&M underframe cars lasted *slightly* longer than the NH design cars did. Whether that translated to the wood end cars, or not, is unknown. Lacking further info, it should be safe to *assume* they lasted in proportion to their original numbers.
From Eric Neubauer Laconia data, the following cars were listed (or vacant) in the USRA valuation survey, 6/30/1914:
[see ICC valuation data below]
- 65688-66087 series
- 66088-66337 series
- 66338-66487 series
- 66488-66787 series
- 66788-67787 series
- 31+ cars (65925-66484, with gaps) converted to Fitchburg Express Box 2949-2999 series approx 1910-1912. As of the valuation survey, these remained (31 cars):
2949, 2953, 2957-2959, 2961-2964, 2967-2968, 2970, 2973, 2975-2978, 2980-2984, 2987-2990, 2992-2993, 2997-2999Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data
The Car Book / Car Disposition data exceeds how much text Squarespace allows in a code block, so I am breaking it up into 2 separate web pages:ICC Valuation Data (circa 1914)
For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page
"Owning"
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DateBuilder Capy Underframe Body Notes B&M 65688-65699 BM-12 658 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 65700-65799 BM-12 659 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 65800-65899 BM-12 660 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 65900-65924 BM-12 661 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 65927-65999 BM-12 662 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66000-66024 BM-12 663 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66026-66087 BM-12 664 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66088-66099 BM-12 665 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66100 BM-12 666 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66101 BM-12 667 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66103-66109 BM-12 668 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66111-66118 BM-12 669 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66120-66122 BM-12 670 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66124-66139 BM-12 671 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66141 BM-12 672 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66144-66159 BM-12 673 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66162-66166 BM-12 674 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66170-66175 BM-12 675 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66177-66188 BM-12 676 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66190-66199 BM-12 677 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66200-66206 BM-12 678 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66208-66214 BM-12 679 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66217-66219 BM-12 680 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66221-66290 BM-12 681 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66293-66299 BM-12 682 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66300-66303 BM-12 683 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66305-66319 BM-12 684 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66322-66328 BM-12 685 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66330-66385 BM-12 686 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66387-66399 BM-12 687 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66400 BM-12 688 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66401 BM-12 689 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66403-66411 BM-12 690 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66413-66420 BM-12 691 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66422 BM-12 692 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66424-66434 BM-12 693 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66436-66449 BM-12 694 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66451-66454 BM-12 695 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66456-66480 BM-12 696 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66482 BM-12 697 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66483 BM-12 698 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66485-66487 BM-12 699 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66488-66499 BM-13 1 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66500-66599 BM-13 2 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66600-66699 BM-13 3 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66700-66799 BM-13 4 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66800-66877 BM-13 5 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66879-66899 BM-13 6 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66900-66908 BM-13 7 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66910-66960 BM-13 8 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66962-66994 BM-13 9 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 66996-66999 BM-13 10 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67000-67099 BM-13 11 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67100-67126 BM-13 12 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67128 BM-13 13 Box 1910 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67129-67199 BM-13 14 Box 1911 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67200-67299 BM-13 15 Box 1911 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67300-67349 BM-13 16 Box 1911 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67351-67399 BM-13 17 Box 1911 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67400-67435 BM-13 18 Box 1911 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67437-67499 BM-13 19 Box 1911 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67500-67599 BM-13 20 Box 1911 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67600-67609 BM-13 21 Box 1911 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67611-67699 BM-13 22 Box 1911 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67700-67787 BM-13 23 Box 1911 Laconia 60 steel wood B&M 67788-67799 BM-13 24 Box 1913 Keith Mfg. 60 steel wood B&M 67800-67866 BM-13 25 Box 1913 Keith Mfg. 60 steel wood B&M 67867-67899 BM-13 26 Box 1914 Keith Mfg. 60 steel wood B&M 67900-67999 BM-13 27 Box 1914 Keith Mfg. 60 steel wood B&M 68000-68099 BM-13 28 Box 1914 Keith Mfg. 60 steel wood B&M 68100-68199 BM-13 29 Box 1914 Keith Mfg. 60 steel wood B&M 68200-68287 BM-13 30 Box 1914 Keith Mfg. 60 steel wood Paint Schemes
References or other data
- Magazine/Book article(s)
Photographs
Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-dayVisible? Markings Paint
SchemeHerald Notes 
Phelps, George New England Rail Album: A Traveling Salesman Remembers the 1930s ISBN 0-87046-089-7 p30 ? 1933 p p maroon rect Guessing... this is the correct series.
Appears to be a SUF boxcar, with 7/7 stamped steel endB&MRRHS Bulletin Issue included in "page" column v XVIII #2 p10 ? X Bp ?B&M? R R AB rect 7/7 steel end, cast steel trucks?. B&MRRHS Modelers Notes Issue No. included in "page" column No. 72 p2 MTC 67767 X MTC R R AB none Bob's Photos (photo "number" in "page" column, collection in "Note" column) BM090 W3013 1962-08-18 Y X A? maroon none Guessing... this is the correct series.
Wood end, Fox trucksW3082 X B ? none Guessing this is correct series. ?ER Batson coll?
7/7 steel end (w/door), Arch bar trucks. "TOOL CAR"
Lights? under end of running board.W3042 X MOW service, Fox trucks Laconia Car CD Page column is file name WLHG62.tif 67771 1911 B original ? Builder's photo WLHG63.tif 67771 1911-05 X S1& R R N original none Builder's photo.arch bar trucks. WLHG96.tif 66169 ca. 1901? X Bp S1& R R N original none Builder's Photo. Andrews? trucks. Note another car behind.
Reporting marks are spelled out (one line) "BOSTON & MAINE"Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos (as of 15-Apr-2020)
Scroll down to the "B" section, click on the "Boston & Maine (B&M)" link
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listedMWT W1121 W1121 (W3021?) 1969-01 X X A BM R R N none I think this is correct series (Looks like NH style SUF)
Note ends sill - distinct enough to figure out
Note 7/7 stamped steel end
In MOW service - note windows, doors in endMWT W1121 W1121 (W3021?) 1969-01 X X B BM R R N " MWT W1121 W1121 (W3021?) 1969-01 X X A BM R R N " Library of Congress
Above is direct link. If it doesn't work, search the photo collection for the title "Freight cars in yards of farmers' cooperative. White River Junction, Vermont"66353 1936-02? X B&M R R AB rect Excellent image at highest TIF resolution
MAY have metal end applied. Andrews(?) trucks
Reweight date of 1933-09B&MRRHS "Flickr" page
Above is direct link. Title="B&M 36' wood box car no. 68149, unknown location, Oct. 9, 1929"68149 1929-10-09 B X Very good image of end (steel end, NH style underframe - note end sill). B&MRRHS "Flickr" page
Above is direct link. Title="View from the roof of B&M 36' wood box car no. 48517, Burleyville, N.H., (on the Conway Branch), June 27, 1929"67680 1929-06-27 B BM R R N End of NEXT car (not the car he is standing on) Garth Groff New Hampshire photo album in "realSTMFC" groups.io
NOTE: You will have to join the group to see the pictures. There are 2 photos of this car68106 2010 Y X A,B maroon White Mtn Central Car exists, good photos. NH style SUF.
Unknown if number is authentic (I would guess it is, at least it is in the correct series for the underframe).
Looks like wood parts of car have been rebuilt/refurbished, with unknown authenticityRenumberings/Conversions/Dispositions
Date Quantity New Numbers Description ? 1 68106? Ended up at Clark's Trading Post, Lincoln,NH (probably ex-MOW), still exists 1910-1912 31+ 2949-2999 Converted to Express Freight(?) with cast steel trucks Models
Scale Manufacturer Stock number Car number Paint scheme Notes HO Accurail 1809 65182 no herald Unknown accuracy. Listed "available" on web site Dec, 2020 Revision History
File History for THIS page Date Who Description 08-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release 26-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs 04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section 15-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Added more web sites: B&MRRHS Flickr, Fallen Flags,
NMRA Archives, Earl Tuson. Also Scott Whitney (NMRO) CDs23-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Added Builder's photo 30-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Altered Car # headers in "individual car listing" section for end differences 01-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORER (1941, 1943, 1945, 1947) 03-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added LOC picture for 66353 05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section 07-May-2020 KG Akerboom STARTED work on reformatting ORER "ends" tables 09-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1942 class cards 10-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1952 class cards 11-May-2020 KG Akerboom Updated class card table 14-May-2020 KG Akerboom Finished reformatting ORER "ends" tables 14-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added more B&MRRHS Flickr 16-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931) 24-May-2020 KG Akerboom Extended the discussion of B&M vs. NH underframe designs 28-May-2020 KG Akerboom updated 10/1919 07-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom Added Eric Neubauer - Pressed Steel Railcar Production (June 2014 "Car of the month") data 21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns 01-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Corrected Flickr link 07- thru
16-Aug-2020KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid 20-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added more Eric Neubauer data 01-Sep-2020 KG Akerboom Added Eric Neubauer - Laconia data 10-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues) 17-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added Car Book Data 17-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Standardized formatting of Classification Card(s) section 19-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Updated 1942 Classification Card 24-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1955 Classification Card 12-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added model info 10-Apr-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917 04-Jul-2021 KG Akerboom Reorganized Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data (Car # to 1st column, 2nd/other changes to new rows) 15-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added remaining 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs 28-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added car disposition record data 29-Dec-2021 KG Akerboom Updated ORER "Note K/H/F/G/B" and "Note L/J/G/F" data with 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs 22-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added ICC Valuation data
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