B&M (VV) 138 / 213 Box Cars

Vermont Valley 138 and 213 (Boston & Maine 46801 and 68300) Series Box Cars

Index

Builder's Photo

VV 138-167 sub-class

VV 168-212 sub-class

VV 213-232 sub-class

B&M Classification Card(s)

For more info on the classification cards and "webitizing" them, see this web page
VV 138-167; 168-212 sub-classes

From 1942 class book.
Red text was black on original scan, above process removed it entirely, so (as best as I could read it) I re-added it
Note 1: in pencil, dimensions are 36'-3⅝" [inside] and 36'-8⅛" [outside] - I assume these are "actual" values vs. "stencil" values in black ink?
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Back side of previous page also had additional information:
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From 1955 class book.
Red text was black on original scan, above process removed it entirely, so (as best as I could read it) I re-added it
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VV 213-232 sub-class
(B&M Type steel underframe)
From 1942 class book.
Red text was black on original scan, above process removed it entirely, so (as best as I could read it) I re-added it
Note 1: Possibly: "2' - 4⅝" ... " [possibly one car series]
Note 2: Script text here was very hard to read. Possibly: "Bettendorf trucks ... Springs" (there was also something written in the "blank" column, to the right of the "A" column)
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Specifications From Classification Cards

(as built) Wood Underframe Cars
Spec VV 138-167 VV 168-212
Builder WSC&F WSC&F
Lot # [O.O.] 21 [O.O.] 23
Spec # 187 201
Quantity 30 45
Build Date 1906-1907 1907
Dimension "A"
(max outside width) 9'-3¼"
Dimension "B"
(door height) 7'-8½" 7'-7½"
Dimension "C"
(inside height to carlines) 8'-0" 7'-11³/₁₆"
AAR class XM
Lt Weight 31,000 lbs (approx)
Description 36' Wood underframe boxcars, double-sheathed
Some cars received composite underframes
(steel center sills) beginning before 1914
Cubic Cap'y Original: 2,467 Cu. Ft.
7/7 stamped steel ends: 2,483 Cu. Ft.
Truss Rods four x 1⅛"
Trucks Fox
Springs 7" x 7", 1¼" outside (¾" inside) steel
Journals 4¼" x 8" (60,000 lbs nominal capacity)
Side Bearings 67" center to center,
33¼" from rail to top of truck side bearing
Air Brake HC 812
Center Plates Fox Contour
Coupler 5" x 5" shanks, 6½" butts
Draft Gear Tandem spring
Doors 6' - Per Eric Neubauer - Pressed Steel Railcar Production (June 2014 "Car of the month") data

(as built) Steel Underframe Cars
Spec VV 213-232
B&M Numbers
(renumbered 1925) 68300-68319
Quantity 20
Builder Laconia
Lot # 28A
Spec # 217
Order # 543 (cars)
544 (trucks)
(ordered 02-1909)
Build Date 1908-1909
Draft Gear Waugh
Coupler Butts 6½"
Trucks Andrews
Wheel Base 66"
Description B&M type steel underframe box
Lt Weight 37,500 lbs (approx)
Cubic Cap'y Wood ends 2,467 Cu. Ft.
Steel ends 2,542 Cu. Ft.
Air Brake 8" x 12" cylinder
ARA class XM
Side Door (W x H) 6' x 7'-7¼"
Ends Original Wood
Steel 7 / 7 stamped steel ("Murphy" style)
Journals 4¼" x 8" (60,000 lbs nominal capacity)
Added by 1952 class card:
Brake Beam #2
For D. Gears, couplers & D. Gear Spacing see Dwg. 15947
Light Weight 38,300 lbs

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data - 1903-1910
Description 3/1907 10/1908
Length 36' 36'
Width 8'-6" 8'-6"
Height 8' 8'
Capacity (Pounds) … 60000

ORER Size Data - VV RR
Description 8/1910 11/1922 5/1925 (steel end ONLY)
VV 138-212 VV 213-232
M.C.B. / AAR Mechanical Designation XM (11/1914) XM
Inside
Dimensions Length 36' 36' 36'-3⅝" 36'-11½"
Width 8'-6" 8'-6"
Height 8' 8'-0¾"
Outside
Dimensions Length 36'-9¼" 36'-9¼"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-7⅜" 9'-7⅜"
Extreme Width
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 12' 12'
To Top of Running Board 13'-3¼" 13'-3¾"
To Extreme Height 13'-11⅝" 13'-11⅝"
Door - Side
opening Width 6' 6'
Height 7'-10⅞" 7'-10⅞" 7'-7" (all cars, both ends)
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 2448 (3/1914) 2467 2483 2542
Pounds 60000 60000

ORER Size Data - B&M
Description 12/1930 7/1937
BM 46800 BM 68300 BM 68300
End Orig Steel Orig Steel Orig Steel
M.C.B. / AAR Mechanical Designation XM XM
Inside
Dimensions Length 36' 36'-3" 36' 36'-11" 36' 36'-11"
Width 8'-6" 8'-6"
Height 8' 8'
Outside
Dimensions Length 36'-10" 37'-4" 36'-10" 37'-4"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 9'-8" 9'-8"
Extreme Width 9'-7"
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width 12'-7"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 12' 12'-7"
To Top of Running Board 13'-4" 13'-4"
To Extreme Height 14' 14'
Door - Side
opening Width 6' 6'
Height 7'-7" 7'-7"
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 2467 2483 2467 2542 2467 2542
Pounds 60000 60000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
1907 - 03 VV 138-167 … Box
1907 - 04 (same)
1907 - 05 " 30 "
1907 - 06 " 29 "
1907 - 07 (same)
1907 - 08 VV 138-212 111 "
1907 - 09 (same)
1907 - 10 (same)
1907 - 11 " 75 "
1907 - 12 (same)
1908 - 01 (same)
1908 - 02 (same)
1908 - 03 (same)
1908 - 04 (same)
1908 - 05 (same)
1908 - 08 (same)
1908 - 09 (same)
1908 - 10 (same)
1908 - 11 (same)
1908 - 12 (same)
1909 - 01 (same)
1909 - 02 (same)
1909 - 04 (same)
1909 - 05 " 74 "
1909 - 06 (same)
1909 - 07 (same)
1909 - 08 (same)
1909 - 09 " " "
1909 - 10 (same)
1909 - 11 " 92 "
1910 - 01 " [illegible] "
1910 - 02 VV 138-232 94 "
1910 - 03 (same)
1910 - 04 (same)
1910 - 05 (same)
1910 - 06 " (illegible) "
1910 - 07 " 94 "
1910 - 08 " [illegible] "
1910 - 09 " 93 "
1910 - 11 (same)
1910 - 12 (same)
1911 - 02 " (illegible) "
1911 - 03 " 93? "
1911 - 04 (same)
1911 - 05 (same)
1912 - 06 (same)
1912 - 07 (same)
1911 - 08 (same)
1911 - 09 (same)
1911 - 10 (same)
1911 - 11 (same)
1911 - 12 (same)
1912 - 01 (same)
1912 - 02 (same)
1912 - 03 (same)
1912 - 04 " [illegible] "
1912 - 05 " 93 "
1912 - 08 (same)
1912 - 09 (same)
1912 - 10 " (illegible) "
1912 - 11 (same)
1912 - 12 (same)
1913 - 01 (same)
1913 - 02 " 92 "
1913 - 03 (same)
1913 - 04 " 92? "
1913 - 05 " 92? "
1913 - 06 " 92 "
1913 - 07 (same)
1913 - 10 " 91 "
1913 - 11 (same)
1913 - 12 (same)
1914 - 01 (same)
1914 - 02 (same)
1914 - 03 " [illegible] "
1914 - 04 " (illegible) "
1914 - 05 " 91 "
1914 - 06 (same)
1914 - 07 (same)
1914 - 09 " 91 "
1914 - 10 " [illegible] "
1914 - 11 " 91 "
1914 - 12 (same)
1915 - 01 (same)
Single series split into 2: WUF vs. SUF
1915 - 02 VV 138-212 71 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1915 - 03 (same) (both rows)
1915 - 04 VV 138-212 [illegible] Box
VV 213-232 [illegible] Box, Steel Underframe
1915 - 05 VV 138-212 [illegible] Box
VV 213-232 [illegible] Box, Steel Underframe
1915 - 10 VV 138-212 71 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1915 - 11 (same) (both rows)
1915 - 12 (same) (both rows)
1916 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1916 - 02 (same) (both rows)
1916 - 03 VV 138-212 [illegible] Box
VV 213-232 [illegible] Box, Steel Underframe
1916 - 04 VV 138-212 71 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1916 - 05 VV 138-212 71 Box
VV 213-232 [illegible] Box, Steel Underframe
1916 - 06 VV 138-212 71 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1916 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1916 - 08 (same) (both rows)
1916 - 09 VV 138-212 [illegible] Box
VV 213-232 [illegible] Box, Steel Underframe
1916 - 10 VV 138-212 71 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1916 - 11 (same) (both rows)
1916 - 12 VV 138-212 [illegible] Box
VV 213-232 [illegible] Box, Steel Underframe
1917 - 01 VV 138-212 71 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1917 - 02 (same) (both rows)
1917 - 03 (same) (both rows)
1917 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1917 - 05 (same) (both rows)
1917 - 06 (same) (both rows)
1917 - 10 VV 138-212 69 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1917 - 11 (same) (both rows)
1919 - 10 VV 138-212 66 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1920 - 01 VV 138-212 65 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1921 - 05 VV 138-212 63 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1921 - 12 VV 138-212 63? Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1922 - 08 VV 138-212 63 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1922 - 11 (same) (both rows)
1923 - 02 VV 138-212 61 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1924 - 11 VV 138-212 50 Box
VV 213-232 20 Box, Steel Underframe
1925 - 05 VV 138-212 38 Box
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
VV 213-232 16 Box, Steel Underframe
4 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note N)
1925 - 07 VV 138-212 36 Box
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
VV 213-232 15 Box, Steel Underframe
5 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note N)
1925 - 10 VV 138-212 33 Box
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
VV 213-232 15 Box, Steel Underframe
5 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note N)
Cars being renumbered into B&M numbers
1926 - 08 VV 138-212 29 Box
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 46801-46839 3 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
VV 213-232 12 Box, Steel Underframe
5 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note N)
B&M 68300-68319 3 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
1926 - 10 VV 138-212 27 Box
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 46801-46839 5 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
VV 213-232 12 Box, Steel Underframe
5 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note N)
B&M 68300-68319 3 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
1927 - 06 VV 138-212 24 Box
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 46801-46839 6 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
VV 213-232 8 Box, Steel Underframe
6 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note N)
B&M 68300-68319 5 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
VV 128 (was series VV 90-137) included in series 138-212
1927 - 08 VV 128-212 26 Box
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 46808-46824 5 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
VV 213-232 7 Box, Steel Underframe
6 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note N)
B&M 68300-68319 6 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
1928 - 07 VV 147-212 4 Box
2 Box, Steel Ends (Note M②)
B&M 46801-46837 24 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
5 Box, Steel Ends (Note M①)
VV 226 1 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1928 - 08 VV 147-212 4 Box
B&M 46801-46837 24 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
VV 226 1 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1928 - 09 (same) (all 6 rows)
1928 - 10 (same) (all 6 rows)
1928 - 11 VV 147, 186 2 Box
B&M 46801-46837 23 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
VV 226 1 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1928 - 12 VV 186 1 Box
B&M 46801-46837 19 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1929 - 01 (same) (all 5 rows)
1929 - 02 VV 186 1 Box
B&M 46801-46837 18 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1929 - 03 VV 186 1 Box
B&M 46801-46837 17 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
All cars now in B&M series
1929 - 04 B&M 46801-46837 18 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1929 - 05 B&M 46801-46837 17 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1929 - 06 B&M 46801-46837 16 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1929 - 07 B&M 46801-46837 15 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1929 - 08 B&M 46801-46837 15 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1929 - 09 B&M 46801-46837 12 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
6 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1929 - 10 B&M 46807-46835 5 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
4 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1929 - 11 (same) (all 4 rows)
1929 - 12 (same) (all 4 rows)
1930 - 01 B&M 46807-46835 4 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
4 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1930 - 02 B&M 46807-46835 4 Box [ex-VV 138-212]
3 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
B&M 68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe [ex-VV 213-232]
7 Box, Steel Ends (Note C①)
1930 - 03 (same) (all 4 rows)
1930 - 04 (same) (all 4 rows)
1930 - 05 (same) (all 4 rows)
1930 - 06 46807-46834 3 Box
3 Box, Steel Ends (Note M)
68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe
7 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note C ①)
1930 - 07 (same) (all 4 rows)
1930 - 08 (same) (all 4 rows)
1930 - 09 (same) (all 4 rows)
1930 - 10 (same) (all 4 rows)
1930 - 11 (same) (all 4 rows)
1930 - 12 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 01 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 02 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 03 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 04 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 05 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 06 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 07 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 08 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 09 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 10 (same) (all 4 rows)
1931 - 11 (same) (all 4 rows)
1932 - 01 (same) (all 4 rows)
1932 - 02 (same) (all 4 rows)
1932 - 03 (same) (all 4 rows)
1932 - 04 (same) (all 4 rows)
1932 - 05 (same) (all 4 rows)
1932 - 06 (same) (all 4 rows)
Switch to Bi-monthly
1932 - 07 (same) (all 4 rows)
1932 - 09 [no changes noted]
1932 - 11 [no changes noted]
1933 - 01 [no changes noted]
1933 - 03 [no changes noted]
1933 - 05 [no changes noted]
1933 - 07 46807,46818,46834 3 Box
46813,46821,46827 3 Box, Steel Ends
68300-68319 13 Box, Steel Underframe
7 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note C ①)
1933 - 09 [no changes noted]
1933 - 11 [no changes noted]
1934 - 01 [no changes noted]
1934 - 03 [no changes noted]
1934 - 05 [no changes noted]
1934 - 07 46807, 46818, 46834 3 Box
46813, 46821 2 Box, Steel Ends
68300-68319 12 Box, Steel Underframe
7 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note C)
1934 - 09 [no changes noted]
1934 - 11 [no changes noted]
1935 - 01 [no changes noted]
1935 - 03 [no changes noted]
1935 - 05 [no changes noted]
1935 - 07 46807-46834 No longer listed
68300-68319 11 Box, Steel Underframe
7 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note C)
1935 - 09 [no changes noted]
1935 - 11 [no changes noted]
1936 - 01 [no changes noted]
1936 - 03 [no changes noted]
1936 - 05 [no changes noted]
1936 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1936 - 09 [no changes noted]
1936 - 11 [no changes noted]
1937 - 01 [no changes noted]
1937 - 03 [no changes noted]
1937 - 05 [no changes noted]
Switch to Quarterly
1937 - 07 68300-68319 10 Box, Steel Underframe
7 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note C)
1937 - 10 68300-68319 9 Box, Steel Underframe
7 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note C)
1938 - 01 68300-68319 8 Box, Steel Underframe
7 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note C)
1938 - 04 68300-68319 7 Box, Steel Underframe
7 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note C)
1938 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1938 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1939 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1939 - 04 68300-68319 6 Box, Steel Underframe
7 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note C)
1939 - 07 68304-68319 5 Box, Steel Underframe
5 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note E)
1939 - 10 68304-68319 5 Box, Steel Underframe
4 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note E)
1940 - 01 68304-68319 4 Box, Steel Underframe
3 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note E)
1940 - 04 68304-68319 3 Box, Steel Underframe
3 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note E)
1940 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1940 - 10 68304-68319 1 Box, Steel Underframe
1 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note E)
1941 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1941 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1941 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1941 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1942 - 01 68312 1 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note E)
68317 1 Box, Steel Underframe
1942 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1942 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1942 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1943 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1943 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1943 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1943 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1944 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1944 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1944 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1944 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1945 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1945 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1945 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1945 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1946 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1946 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1946 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1946 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1947 - 01 68312 1 Box, Steel Underframe, Steel Ends (Note E)
1947 - 04 (same)
1947 - 07 (same)
1947 - 10 (same)
1948 - 01 Not listed

ORER Notes

ORER Note M (5/1925 - 10/1926)

Individual numbers of cars in series 138 to 212 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensions and cubical capacity from other numbers in the same series. Actual inside length 36 ft 3⅝ in. (These cars are stencilled 36 ft. 4 in.) Capacity, 2483 cu. ft.: [see table below]

ORER Note N (5/1925 - 10/1926)

Individual numbers of cars in series 213 to 232 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensions and cubical capacity from other numbers in the same series. Actual inside length 36 ft 11½ in. (These cars are stencilled 37 ft.) Capacity, 2452 cu. ft.: [see table below]

Steel Ends - Vermont Valley car numbers
WUF Cars (Note M) SUF Cars (Note N)
Car # First Listed Last Listed To B&M # (*) Car # First Listed Last Listed To B&M # (*)
138 5/1925 10/1926 46801 213 5/1925 10/1926 68300
154 5/1925 7/1928 46809 217 5/1925 10/1926 68304
163 5/1925 10/1926 46813 218 5/1925 5/1925 68305
189 5/1925 10/1926 46827 224 10/1926 10/1926 68311
201 5/1925 7/1928 46833 226 5/1925 10/1926 68313
208 5/1925 10/1926 46836 231 10/1926 10/1926 68318
* - B&M car numbers from car disposition records below

ORER Note M (12/1930 - 3/1931)

Individual numbers of cars in series B&M 46807 to 46834 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensions and cubical capacity from other numbers in the same series. Actual inside length 36 ft 3 in. (These cars are stencilled 36 ft. 4 in.) Capacity, 2483 cu. ft.: [see table below]

ORER Note C①, C (12/1930 - 7/1937)

Individual numbers of cars in series B&M 68300 to 68319 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensions and cubical capacity from other numbers in the same series. Actual inside length 36 ft 11 in. (These cars are stencilled 37 ft.) Capacity, 2452 cu. ft.: [see table below]

ORER Note E (1/1940 - 1/1947)

Individual numbers of cars in series B&M 68304 to 68319 equipped with steel ends differing in dimensions and cubical capacity from other numbers in the same series. Actual inside length 36 ft 11 in. (These cars are stencilled 37 ft.) Capacity, 2452 cu. ft.: [see table below]

ORER Note E (4/1944 - 1/1945)

Car numbered 68312 has actual inside length 36 ft 11 in. (This car is stencilled 37 ft.)

Steel Ends - B&M car numbers
Car # First listed
as B&M Last Listed First Not listed in
1925-29 1930-34 1935-39 1940-44 1945-1949
WUF Cars (note M) *
46801 by 7/1928 9/1929 10/1929
46809 8/1928 7/1929 8/1929
46813 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935
46821 by 7/1928 → 7/1934 7/1935
46827 by 7/1928 → 7/1933 7/1934
46833 8/1928 → 1/1930 2/1930
46836 by 7/1928 9/1929 10/1929
SUF Cars (note C or E) †
68300 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939
68304 by 7/1928 → → 7/1939 10/1939
68305 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940
68311 by 7/1928 → → → 7/1940 10/1940
68312 by 7/1928 → → → → 10/1947 1/1948
68313 12/1928 → → 10/1939 1/1940
68318 by 7/1928 → → 4/1939 7/1939
* - Starting 7/1933, the 468xx cars were just listed in the "main" car listing, there was no "Note"
† - Starting in 1/1942, the car number (68312) was listed in the "main" car listing, however the "Note" was retained

Discussion, General Notes

It will be interesting to see if the "Note C ①" in 12/1930 implies earlier there was a "Note C ②" for MTC cars (or if it was just that "Note C ②" was used for "not yet renumbered" VV cars)
From Eric Neubauer Laconia data, the following cars were listed/vacated in the USRA valuation report, 6/30/1914:
[see ICC valuation data below]

Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data

Acquisition Books (1898 - 1917 only)

Volume number refers original book number
Page numbers refer to numbers on pages in original book, NOT to pages in PDF file(s)
Dates refer to first/last dates expenses were recorded in the acquisition book, NOT to car delivery dates

Vol Page Car Number(s) First
Date Last
Date Builder $ / Car Notes
1 130 V.V. 138-167 1907-03 - Pressed Steel Car Co. $865 Anniston, AL
1 156 V.V. 168-212 1907-06 1908-07 WSC&F $918
1 180 V.V. 213-232 1908-06 1909-11 Laconia Car Co. $1101 contract 6567

Car Books (1923-06 thru 1936-10, then 1944-05 thru 1960-03)

Volume number refers original book number
Part number refers to PDF file part as posted on B&MRRHS site
Page numbers refer to pages in PDF file(s) (L/R = Left or Right side of that PDF page)

Car Number(s) Vol Part Page Date Action Location New # Notes
V.V. 191 1 2 3 1924-12-23 Destroyed car number suffixed with "S"??
V.V. 204 1 2 3 1924-12-12 Destroyed car number suffixed with "S"??
V.V. 464 1 2 3 1922-11-11 Destroyed

Car Disposition Records

Source(s)
ID Box Folder Folder name Link Title Approx.
Start date Approx.
End date
A 2 1 Boxcars 40000 46801-47501 Box 1927? 1935?
B 2 2 Boxcars 60000 67925-68394- “A” ? ?
C 2 3 Boxcars 60000 [2] 64680-67003 - “B” ? ?

NOTE: some of the cars without an explicit "VV" car number *may* be cars left over from 46000 series (46010-46825) box cars (more ORER data needed to confirm/deny that speculation)

Data - WUF cars
Orig. Car # Renumbered
to B&M date B&M
Car # Date Built Disposition
Source ID Rebuilt
Date Disposition
Date Disposition
VV 138 1928-11 46801 1907-03 A 1923 1929-10 Sold for scrap
VV 141 1927-07 46802 1907 A 1922 1929-09 Sold for scrap
VV 146 1928-03 46803 1899-01 A 1929-07 Sold for scrap
VV 148 1928-01 46805 1907-03 A 1922 1929-10 Sold for scrap
VV 150 1926-09 46806 1907-03 A 1928-12 Sold for scrap
VV 152 46807 1907 A 1935-02 Retired
Ex-VV Car #, date renumbered, not known 46808 1907-03 A 1922 1929-11 Sold for scrap
VV 154 1928-06 46809 1907-03 A 1929-06 Sold for scrap
Ex-VV Car #, date renumbered, not known 46810 1907-03 A 1921 1929-10 Sold for scrap
VV 160 1927-12 46811 1896-03 A 1928-09 Sold for scrap
Ex-VV Car #, date renumbered, not known 46812 1923-06 A 1929-04 Sold for scrap
VV 163 1927-09 46813 1907-03 A 1935-02 Retired
VV 170 1926-03 46814 1923-08 A 1929-10 Sold for scrap
VV 173 1927-10 46816 1923 A 1928-10 Sold for scrap
VV 174 1927-10 46817 1907-06 A 1929-05 Sold for scrap
VV 175 46818 1922 A 1922 1935-02 Retired
VV 177 1927-10 46819 1907-06 A 1922 1919-09 Sold for scrap
VV 179 1926-02 46820 1907-06 A 1928-04 to W3061
VV 180 46821 1907-06 A 1920 1935-02 Retired
VV 182 1928-03 46822 1907-06 A 1929-07 Sold for scrap
VV 183 1927-12 46823 1907-06 A 1928-10 Sold for scrap
VV 185 1926-08 46824 1907-06 A 1929-07 Sold for scrap
VV 187 1927-11 46826 1907-06 A 1922 1929-10 Sold for scrap
VV 189 1927-12 46827 1907-06 A 1933-08 Retired
VV 190 1927-07 46828 1907-06 A 1928-10 Sold for scrap
VV 192 1927-10 46829 1907-07 A 1928-12 Sold for scrap
VV 193 1927-10 46830 1907-07 A 1928-09 Sold for scrap
VV 200 1927-10 46832 1919 A 1928-10 Sold for scrap
VV 201 1928-06 46833 1907-07 A 1929-12 Sold for scrap
VV 202 1927-11 46834 1907-07 A 1935-02? Retired
Ex-VV Car #, date renumbered, not known 46835 A 1922 1930-04 Sold for scrap
VV 208 1927-09 46836 1907-07 A 1923 1929-09 Sold for scrap
Ex-VV Car #, date renumbered, not known 46837 1895-11 A 1921 1928-12-31 in service
1929-09 Sold for scrap
VV 212 46839 1923-08 A 1927-05 to W3068

Data - SUF cars
Orig. Car # Renumbered
to B&M date B&M
Car # Date Built Disposition
Source ID Disposition
Date Disposition
VV 213 1927-10 68300 1909 B 1939-02 Retired
VV 214 1927-02 68301 1909 B 1937-02 Retired
VV 215 1928-04 68302 1909 B 1937-11 to W3103
VV 216 1928-01 68303 1909 B 1939-02 Retired
VV 217 1927-09 68304 1909 B 1939-06 Retired
VV 218 1926-03 68305 1909-09 B 1940-08 Retired
VV 219 1927-06 68306 1909-09 B 1939-10 Retired
VV 220 1927-10 68307 1909 B 1936-07 Retired
VV 221 1928-04 68308 1909 B 1935-02 Retired
VV 222 1927-12 68309 1909 B 1937-05 Retired
VV 223 1926-02 68310 1909-09 B 1940-07 Retired
VV 224 1928-03 68311 1909 B 1940-07 Retired
VV 225 1926-02 68312 1909-09 C 1947-10 Retired
VV 226 1928-10 68313 1909-09 B 1939-09 Retired
VV 227 1927-12 68314 1909 B 1935-08 Retired
VV 228 1927-02 68315 1909 B 1939-01 Retired
VV 229 1926-10 68316 1909-09 B 1939-11 Retired
VV 230 1928-04 68317 1909 C 1946-12 Retired
VV 231 1927-12 68318 1909 B 1939-04 Retired
VV 232 1927-09 68319 1909 B 1940-07 Retired

ICC Valuation Data (circa 1914)

For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page

"Owning"
RR Car # /
Range Val
Sheet # Index
on Page Car Type Built
Date Builder Capy Underframe Body Notes
VV 138-145 VV-14 2 Box 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 146-147 VV-14 8 Box 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 composite wood
VV 148 VV-14 3 Box 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 150 VV-14 4 Box 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 151 VV-14 9 Box 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 composite wood
VV 152-160 VV-14 5 Box 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 161 VV-14 10 Box 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 composite wood
VV 162-163 VV-14 6 Box 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 165-167 VV-14 7 Box 1907 Pressed St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 168-172 VV-14 11 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 173 VV-14 18 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 composite wood
VV 174-177 VV-14 12 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 179-185 VV-14 13 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 186 VV-14 19 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 composite wood
VV 187-191 VV-14 14 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 192-193 VV-14 20 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 composite wood
VV 194-199 VV-14 15 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 200-205 VV-14 16 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 207-210 VV-14 17 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 wood wood
VV 211-212 VV-14 21 Box 1907 Western St[eel] 60 composite wood
VV 213-232 VV-14 22 Box 1909 Laconia 60 steel wood

Paint Schemes

References or other data

Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

See above - renumbered from VV to B&M cars in the 1920s
in the 1942 freight car classification book on index page 3, it states:
These cars being renumbered to B&M series. About ⅓ done 10-29-1926

Models

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
24-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Initial release
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
01-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORER (1941, 1943, 1945, 1947)
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
07-May-2020 KG Akerboom Reformatted ORER "Steel Ends" tables
09-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1942 class cards
11-May-2020 KG Akerboom Updated class card table
16-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931)
28-May-2020 KG Akerboom updated 10/1919
07-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom Added Eric Neubauer - Pressed Steel Railcar Production (June 2014 "Car of the month") data (lot numbers are "O.O." numbers)
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru
16-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
01-Sep-2020 KG Akerboom Added Eric Neubauer - Laconia data
10-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues)
17-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added Car Book Data
17-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Standardized formatting of Classification Card(s) section
19-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Updated 1942 Classification Card
24-Nov-2020 KG Akerboom Added 1955 Classification Card
10-Apr-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917
04-Jul-2021 KG Akerboom Reorganized Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data (Car # to 1st column, 2nd/other changes to new rows)
21-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added remaining 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs
26-Oct-2021 KG Akerboom Added car disposition record data
23-Nov-2021 KG Akerboom Updated ORER "Note F [or C]" data with 7/1928 - 10/1947 ORERs
22-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added ICC Valuation data