B&M 25500 Flat Cars

Boston & Maine 25500 Series Flat Cars

Index

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Classification Cards

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ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data - 1903-1910
Dimensions 5/1903
Length 32'
Width
Height
Capacity 30000-40000

ORER Size Data - 1910 - ?
Description 8/1910 2/1914
M.C.B. Designation FM (11/1914)
Inside
Dimensions Length 32'
Width 8'-9"
Height
Outside
Dimensions Length 32' 32'
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 8' to 8'-9" 8'-9"
Extreme Width
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width
To Eaves or top of sides or platform
To Top of Running Board
To Extreme Height
Door - Side
opening Width
Height
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full
Pounds 30-40000 40000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
1903 - 05 25500-25999 483 Flat
1903 - 06 " 478 "
1903 - 07 " 476 "
1903 - 08 (same)
1903 - 09 " 464 "
1903 - 10 " 459 "
1903 - 11 " 470 "
1904 - 07 " 428 "
1904 - 12 " 411 "
1905 - 01 " 408 "
1905 - 03 " 404 "
1905 - 04 " 403 "
1905 - 06 " 395 "
1906 - 08 " 359 "
1907 - 03 25500-26599 322 "
1907 - 04 " 319 "
1907 - 05 " (illegible) "
1907 - 06 " 308? " ‡ note
1907 - 07 " 300 "
1907 - 08 " 290 "
1907 - 09 " 286 "
1907 - 10 " "
1907 - 11 " 279 "
1907 - 12 " 275 "
1908 - 01 (same)
1908 - 02 " 269 "
1908 - 03 " 267 " (no ‡ note)
1908 - 04 " 262 "
1908 - 05 " 268? "
1908 - 08 " 258 "
1908 - 09 " (illegible) "
1908 - 10 " 267? "
1908 - 11 " 265? "
1908 - 12 " 253 "
1909 - 01 " 252 "
1909 - 02 (same)
1909 - 04 " 249 "
1909 - 05 " 246 "
1909 - 06 " 239 "
1909 - 07 (same)
1909 - 08 " 234 "
1909 - 09 " 228 "
1909 - 10 " (illegible) "
1909 - 11 " (illegible) "
1910 - 01 " 224 "
1910 - 02 " 216 "
1910 - 03 " 214 "
1910 - 04 " 213 "
1910 - 05 (same)
1910 - 06 " 212? "
1910 - 07 " 210 "
1910 - 08 " (illegible) "
1910 - 09 " 203 "
1910 - 11 " 195 "
1910 - 12 (same)
1911 - 02 " 187 "
1911 - 03 " 183? "
1911 - 04 " 180 "
1911 - 05 " 175 "
1911 - 08 " 168 "
1911 - 09 " 166 "
1911 - 10 " 164 "
1911 - 11 " 162 "
1911 - 12 " 159 "
1912 - 01 " 157? "
1912 - 02 " 150 "
1912 - 03 " 148 "
1912 - 04 " 145 "
1912 - 05 " 141 "
1912 - 06 " 139 "
1912 - 07 " 138? "
1912 - 08 " 138 "
1912 - 09 (same)
1912 - 10 " (illegible) "
1912 - 11 " 130 "
1912 - 12 " 126 "
1913 - 01 " 125 "
1913 - 02 " 123 "
1913 - 03 " 121 "
1913 - 04 " 118 "
1913 - 05 " 116? "
1913 - 06 " (illegible) "
1913 - 07 " 114 "
1913 - 10 " 100 "
1913 - 11 " 97 "
1913 - 12 (same)
1914 - 01 " 92 "
1914 - 02 " 89 "
1914 - 03 " 87 "
1914 - 04 (same)
1914 - 05 (same)
1914 - 06 (same)
1914 - 07 " 84 "
1914 - 09 " 81 "
1914 - 10 " 77 "
1914 - 11 " 76 "
1914 - 12 " (illegible) "
1915 - 01 " 74 "
1915 - 02 " 72 "
1915 - 03 " 71 "
1915 - 04 " 69? "
1915 - 05 " 69? "
1915 - 10 " 69? "
1915 - 11 " 60 "
1915 - 12 " 59 "
1916 - 02 " 58 "
1916 - 03 " 56 "
1916 - 04 " 44 "
1916 - 05 (same)
1916 - 06 " 43 "
1916 - 07 " 41 "
1916 - 08 " 39 "
1916 - 09 " 38 "
1916 - 10 " 36 "
1916 - 11 " 32 "
1916 - 12 (same)
1917 - 01 (same)
1917 - 02 " 31 "
1917 - 03 (same)
1917 - 04 " 28 "
1917 - 05 " 22 "
1917 - 06 " 21 "
1917 - 10 " 20 "
1917 - 11 " 19 "
1919 - 10 25515-26599 5 "
1920 - 01 " 6 "
1921 - 05 25874 1 "
1921 - 12 (same)
1922 - 08 (same)
1922 - 11 (same)
1923 - 02 (same)
1924 - 11 (same)
1925 - 05 (same)
1925 - 07 (same)
1925 - 10 Not listed

ORER Notes

Discussion, General Notes

I believe the cars in this series are a renumbering from the (1893) 25025-26999 series cars.
B&MRRHS 1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Book No. 1 (Reprint of B&M lettering diagrams)
Note the "Book page number" below refers to the page number in the B&MRRHS book.
As the B&MRRHS book's pages are NOT numbered, "1" is the first page with an actual diagram! (NOT the title pages or index pages)
"U" = upper diagram on that page, "L" = lower diagram
The "Diagram number" refers to the circled number (lower right corner) in each diagram (the original page number)

Book page # 25 - U
B&M Diagram # 47
Diagram Date 1907
Color on Diagram Brown
Notes on Diagram
Datum 1900 Index 1907 Index
Class of car n/a (see 25000 series) Flat Car
Length n/a 32'
Capacity n/a 30,000-40,000
Car Numbers n/a 25500-25999
Page [original] n/a 47

Car Book and/or Car Disposition Data

Car Disposition Records

Source(s) (ID scope is for this web page only)
ID Box Folder Folder name Link Title Approx.
Start date Approx.
End date
A 1 5 Coal Cars 25397-25874 Flat - “A” 1921? 1925?

Data
Car Number Disposition
Source ID Date Built Disposition
Date Disposition New Car #
25509 A 1921-05 to 3985
25874 A 1888-08 1925-06 to 3484

ICC Valuation Data (circa 1914)

For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page

"Owning"
RR Car # /
Range Val
Sheet # Index
on Page Car Type Built
Date Builder Capy Underframe Body Notes
Northern 25515 N(NH)-3 25 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25518 N(NH)-3 26 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25525 N(NH)-3 27 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25536 N(NH)-3 28 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25550 N(NH)-3 71 Flat 1879 Fitchburg 30 wood wood
Northern 25553-25554 N(NH)-3 29 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25556 N(NH)-3 30 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25559-25560 N(NH)-3 31 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25570 N(NH)-3 32 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25573 N(NH)-3 33 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25575? N(NH)-3 34 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25584-25585 N(NH)-3 35 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25589 N(NH)-3 36 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25609 N(NH)-3 37 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25635 N(NH)-3 38 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25637-25638 N(NH)-3 39 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25640 N(NH)-3 40 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25643 N(NH)-3 41 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25645 N(NH)-3 42 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25649 N(NH)-3 43 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25651-25652 N(NH)-3 44 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25668 N(NH)-3 45 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25675 N(NH)-3 46 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25677 N(NH)-3 47 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25682 N(NH)-3 48 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25684 N(NH)-3 49 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25690 N(NH)-3 50 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25693 N(NH)-3 51 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25694 N(NH)-3 52 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25711 N(NH)-3 53 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25713-25714 N(NH)-3 54 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25718 N(NH)-3 55 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25720 N(NH)-3 56 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25723-25724 N(NH)-3 57 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25748 N(NH)-3 58 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25751 N(NH)-3 59 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25756 N(NH)-3 72 Flat 1892 Fitchburg 60 wood wood
Northern 25762 N(NH)-3 60 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25764 N(NH)-3 61 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25768-25769 N(NH)-3 62 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25777 N(NH)-3 63 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25780 N(NH)-3 64 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25789 N(NH)-3 65 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25796 N(NH)-3 66 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25799 N(NH)-3 67 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25800 N(NH)-3 68 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25806 N(NH)-3 69 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Northern 25808 N(NH)-3 70 Flat 1881-1896 various 40 wood wood
Conn River 25817 CR-2 68 Flat pre-1896 [N/A] 40 wood wood
Conn River 25829 CR-2 69 Flat 1893 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Conn River 25832 CR-2 70 Flat 1888 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Conn River 25844 CR-2 71 Flat 1888 Conn R 40 wood wood
Conn River 25845 CR-2 72 Flat pre-1896 [N/A] 40 wood wood
Conn River 25848 CR-2 73 Flat 1883 B&M RR 40 wood wood
Conn River 25849 CR-2 74 Flat 1881 Keith 40 wood wood
Conn River 25853 CR-2 75 Flat pre-1892 [N/A] 40 wood wood
Conn River 25855 CR-2 76 Flat 1881 [N/A] 40 wood wood
Conn River 25856 CR-2 77 Flat pre-1886 [N/A] 40 wood wood
Conn River 25860 CR-2 78 Flat 1887 Conn R 40 wood wood
Conn River 25863 CR-2 79 Flat 1881 B&M RR 40 wood wood
Conn River 25864 CR-2 80 Flat pre-1892 [N/A] 40 wood wood
Conn River 25868 CR-2 81 Flat 1892 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Conn River 25869 CR-2 82 Flat 1893 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Conn River 25874 CR-2 83 Flat 1888 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Conn River 25875 CR-2 84 Flat pre-1896 [N/A] 40 wood wood
Conn River 25876 CR-2 85 Flat 1882 B&M RR 40 wood wood
Conn River 25879 CR-2 86 Flat pre-1889 [N/A] 40 wood wood
Conn River 25881 CR-2 87 Flat 1883 B&M RR 40 wood wood
Conn River 25882 CR-2 88 Flat 1881 Keith 40 wood wood
Conn River 25892 CR-2 89 Flat 1891 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Conn River 25894 CR-2 90 Flat pre-1894 [N/A] 40 wood wood
Conn River 25903 CR-2 91 Flat pre-1894 Conn R 40 wood wood
Conn River 25922 CR-2 92 Flat 1892 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Conn River 25929 CR-2 93 Flat 1892 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Conn River 25977 CR-2 94 Flat 1887 [N/A] 40 wood wood

Paint Schemes

References or other data

Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-day Visible? Markings Paint
Scheme Herald Notes

Alamy Stock photos
NOTE: This is a "pay" site
Search on "Boston and maine railroad", scroll from there
Title = "Antique c1910 photograph, workers aboard a Boston & Maine flatbed car. SOURCE: ORIGINAL PHOTOGRAPH - Image ID: R99Y2C"
25531 ca 1910 X p S1& R R N none appears to be a work train
Not sure if this is a "1893" 25025 series car.

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Revision History

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