B&M 8850 Gondola Cars

Boston & Maine 8850 Series Gondola Cars

Index

Builder's Photo

Does one exist?

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Classification Cards

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ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data - 1903-1910
Dimensions 5/1903
Length 28-32'
Width
Height
Capacity 40000

ORER Size Data
Description 8/1910 2/1914
M.C.B. Designation GB (11/1914)
Inside
Dimensions Length 28'-6"
Width 8'-9"
Height 2'
Outside
Dimensions Length 28-32'
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 8' to 9'-2"
Extreme Width
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width
To Eaves or top of sides or platform
To Top of Running Board
To Extreme Height
Door - Side
opening Width
Height
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full
Pounds 40000 40000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
1901 - 03 8850-9549 662 Sideboard Coal, 28 to 32', 30000 to 60000 lbs capacity
1901 - 04 " (illegible) "
1901 - 05 " (illegible) "
1901 - 06 " 453 "
1901 - 07 " 452 "
1901 - 08 " 451 "
1901 - 09 " (illegible) "
1901 - 10 " (illegible) "
1901 - 11 " (illegible) "
1903 - 03 9040-9549 426 "
1903 - 05 9050-9549 422 Coal, Drop Sideboard
1903 - 06 " 421 "
1903 - 07 " 418 "
1903 - 08 (same)
1903 - 09 9050-9499 414 "
1903 - 10 " 409 "
1903 - 11 " 406 "
1904 - 07 " 394 "
1904 - 12 " 381 "
1905 - 01 " 374 "
1905 - 03 " 371 "
1905 - 04 (same)
1905 - 06 " 369 "
1906 - 08 " 343 "
1907 - 03 " 324 "
1907 - 04 " 322 "
1907 - 05 " 321 "
1907 - 06 (same)
1907 - 07 " 318 "
1907 - 08 " 316 "
1907 - 09 (same)
1907 - 10 (same)
1907 - 11 " 305 "
1907 - 12 " 302 "
1908 - 01 " 299 "
1908 - 02 " 298 "
1908 - 03 (same)
1908 - 04 (same)
1908 - 05 " 299 "
1908 - 08 " 295 "
1908 - 09 " 294 "
1908 - 10 " 298? "
1908 - 11 " 291 "
1908 - 12 (same)
1909 - 01 " 290 "
1909 - 02 (same)
1909 - 04 (same)
1909 - 05 (same)
1909 - 06 (same)
1909 - 07 " 289 "
1909 - 08 " 285 "
1909 - 09 " 283 "
1909 - 10 " 280 "
1909 - 11 (same)
1910 - 01 " 274 "
1910 - 02 " 270 "
1910 - 03 " 266 "
1910 - 04 " 264 "
1910 - 05 (same)
1910 - 06 " (illegible) "
1910 - 07 " 259 "
1910 - 08 " (illegible) "
1910 - 09 " 256 "
1910 - 11 " 255 "
1910 - 12 " 249 "
1911 - 02 " 247 "
1911 - 03 (same)
1911 - 04 " 246 "
1911 - 05 " 241 "
1911 - 08 " 227 "
1911 - 09 " 224 "
1911 - 10 " 229? "
1911 - 11 " 217 "
1911 - 12 " 213 "
1912 - 01 " 207? "
1912 - 02 " 204? "
1912 - 03 " 201 "
1912 - 04 " 199 "
1912 - 05 " 197 "
1912 - 06 " 192? "
1912 - 07 " 188? "
1912 - 08 " 181 "
1912 - 09 " 176 "
1912 - 10 " 171? "
1912 - 11 " 171 "
1912 - 12 " 165 "
1913 - 01 " 161 "
1913 - 02 " 157 "
1913 - 03 " 155 "
1913 - 04 " (illegible) "
1913 - 05 " (illegible) "
1913 - 06 " 137? "
1913 - 07 " 126 "
1913 - 10 " 89 "
1913 - 11 " 83 "
1913 - 12 " 78 "
1914 - 01 " 68 "
1914 - 02 " 58 "
1914 - 03 " 49 "
1914 - 04 9098-9499 48 "
1914 - 05 " 44 "
1914 - 06 " 40 "
1914 - 07 " 34 "
1914 - 09 " 8 "
1914 - 10 " 6 "
1914 - 11 " 4 "
1914 - 12 9269 1 "
1915 - 01 Not listed

ORER Notes

Discussion, General Notes

Are these are existing cars being renumbered into a new/contiguous series? Or are they cars new since 1897?
B&MRRHS 1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Book No. 1 (Reprint of B&M lettering diagrams)
Note the "Book page number" below refers to the page number in the B&MRRHS book.
As the B&MRRHS book's pages are NOT numbered, "1" is the first page with an actual diagram! (NOT the title pages or index pages)
"U" = upper diagram on that page, "L" = lower diagram
The "Diagram number" refers to the circled number (lower right corner) in each diagram (the original page number)

Book page # 21 - L
B&M Diagram # 40
Diagram Date 1907
Color on Diagram Brown
Notes on Diagram
Datum 1900 Index 1907 Index
Class of car Drop Side Car Gondola Car Drop Sideboard
Length 28'-32' 28'-32'
Capacity 40,000 40,000
Car Numbers 8850-9499 9050-9499
Page [original] 38 40

ICC Valuation Data (circa 1914)

For more info on the ICC valuation data, see this web page

"Owning"
RR Car # /
Range Val
Sheet # Index
on Page Car Type Built
Date Builder Capy Underframe Body Notes
Fitch 9130 F-9 128 gon - dump sides & bottom 1883-1887 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 9180 F-9 129 gon - dump sides & bottom 1883-1887 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 9219 F-9 130 gon - dump sides & bottom 1883-1887 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 9224 F-9 131 gon - dump sides & bottom 1883-1887 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 9269 F-9 132 gon - dump sides & bottom 1883-1887 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 9319 F-9 133 gon - dump sides & bottom 1883-1887 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 9403 F-9 136 gon - dump sides & bottom 1886-1891 Fitchburg-Charleston 40 wood wood
Fitch 9431 F-9 134 gon - dump sides & bottom 1883-1887 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 9476 F-9 135 gon - dump sides & bottom 1883-1887 Fitchburg 40 wood wood
Fitch 9494 F-9 137 gon - dump sides & bottom 1886-1891 Fitchburg-Charleston 40 wood wood
Fitch 9496 F-9 138 gon - dump sides & bottom 1886-1891 Fitchburg-Charleston 40 wood wood

Paint Schemes

References or other data

Magazine/Book article(s)

Photographs

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
25-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
14-May-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 4 more ORERs (1911,1919,1921,1931)
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru
16-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
10-Oct-2020 KG Akerboom Added E. Neubauer ORER data (car counts only, 15 issues)
28-Jan-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from "1900-1907 Freight Car Lettering Diagrams" book
10-Apr-2021 KG Akerboom Added info from 47 more ORERs 1903 thru 1917
22-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added ICC Valuation data