B&M 5700 Hopper Cars

Boston & Maine 5700 Series Hopper Cars

Index

Builder's Photo

Pullman-Standard Photos, James Kinkaid Collection, used with permission (click on image to see full resolution available)
Side view

3/4 view

End view

B&M Classification Card(s)

Does one exist?

Specifications From Classification Cards

Data from Neubauer, Eric. Pullman-Standard Freight Car Production Including Predecessors (Pullman-Standard Freight Car Production.pdf)

Spec Value
Builder Pullman (B&MRRHS Modelers Notes No 18.) (Butler, PA)
Lot # 9137
Car Numbers 5700-5719
Quantity 20
Build Date Apr, 1966
AAR class LO
Lt Weight
Description Pullman-Standard PS-2CD
Cubic Cap'y 4427 Cu. Ft.

ORER data and numbers

ORER Size Data
Description 4/1966 10/1966 1/1968 10/1981 1/1983 1/1983 7/1989 7/1996
(5714 only)
AAR Mechanical Designation LO LO LO LO LO LO LO LO
Inside
Dimensions Length 49'-6" 49'-6" 50'-5" 50'-5" 50'-4" 50'-4"
Width 10'-1" 10'-1" 10'-1" 10'-1" 10' 10'
Height
Outside
Dimensions Length 50'-7" 50'-7" 51'-5" 51'-5" 54'-1" 54'-1" 54'-1" 54'-1"
Width At Eaves or top of sides or platform 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-2" 10'-2" 8'-4"
Extreme Width 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8" 10'-8"
Height
from
Rail To Extreme Width 3'-6"
14' 3'-6"
14' 3'-6"
14' 3'-6" 3'-6" 3'-6" 3'-6" 8'-3"
To Eaves or top of sides or platform 14' 14' 14' 14' 14' 14' 14' 14'-8"
To Top of Running Board 14'-6"
To Extreme Height 15' 15' 15'-1" 15'-1" 15' 15'-1" 15'-1" 15'-1"
Door - Side
opening Width
Height
Capacity Cu Ft. Level Full 4427 4427 4427 4427 4427 4400 4400 4400
Pounds 200000 200000 200000 200000 200000 200000 200000 200000

ORER History
ORER Date
(Year-Mo.) Car
Numbers # of
Cars Description
1966 - 04 5700-5719 20 Covered Hopper
1966 - 07 (same)
1966 - 10 (same)
1967 - 01 (same)
1967 - 04 (same)
1967 - 07 (same)
1967 - 10 (same)
1968 - 01 (same)
1968 - 04 (same)
1968 - 07 (same)
1968 - 10 (same)
1969 - 01 (same)
1969 - 04 (same)
1969 - 07 (same)
1969 - 10 (same)
1970 - 01 (same)
1970 - 04 (same)
1970 - 07 (same)
1970 - 10 (same)
1971 - 01 (same)
1971 - 04 (same)
1971 - 07 (same)
1971 - 10 (same)
1972 - 01 " Covered Hopper Note G
1972 - 04 (same)
1972 - 07 (same)
1972 - 10 (same)
1973 - 01 (same)
1973 - 04 (same)
1973 - 07 (same)
1973 - 11 5700-5719 5 Covered Hopper
[cars in table below] 15 Covered Hopper, Special Interior lining & Hopper Covers, (Sugar only)
1974 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1974 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1974 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1974 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1975 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1975 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1975 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1975 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1976 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1976 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1976 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1976 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1977 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1977 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1977 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1977 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1978 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1978 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1978 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1978 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1979 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1979 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1979 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1979 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1980 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1980 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1980 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1980 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1981 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1981 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1981 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1981 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1982 - 01 (same) (both rows)
1982 - 04 (same) (both rows)
1982 - 07 (same) (both rows)
1982 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1983 - 01 5700-5719 5 Covered Hopper
[cars in table below] 15 Covered Hopper, Special Interior lining (Sugar only)
1983 - 05 5700-5719 20 Covered Hopper
1983 - 07 (same)
1983 - 10 (same)
1984 - 01 (same)
1984 - 04 (same)
1984 - 07 (same)
1984 - 10 (same)
1985 - 01 (same)
1985 - 04 (same)
1985 - 07 (same)
1985 - 10 (same)
1986 - 01 (same)
1986 - 04 (same)
1986 - 07 (same)
1986 - 10 (same)
1987 - 01 (same)
1987 - 04 (same)
1987 - 07 (same)
1987 - 10 (same)
1988 - 01 (same)
1988 - 04 (same)
1988 - 07 (same)
1988 - 10 (same)
1989 - 01 (same)
1989 - 04 (same)
1989 - 07 (same)
1989 - 10 (same)
1990 - 01 (same)
1990 - 04 (same)
1990 - 07 (same)
1990 - 10 (same)
1991 - 01 (same)
1991 - 04 (same)
1991 - 07 (same)
1991 - 10 (same)
1992 - 01 (same)
1992 - 04 (same)
1992 - 07 (same)
1992 - 10 (same)
1993 - 01 " 19 "
1993 - 04 (same)
1993 - 07 (same)
1993 - 10 (same)
1994 - 01 (same)
1994 - 04 " 17 "
1994 - 07 (same)
1994 - 10 (same)
1995 - 01 (same)
1995 - 04 (same)
1995 - 07 (same)
1995 - 10 (same)
1996 - 01 (same)
1996 - 04 (same)
1996 - 07 5700-5719 17 Covered Hopper
5714 1 Covered Hopper
1996 - 10 (same) (both rows)
1997 - 01 5701-5712 12 Covered Hopper
5714 1 Covered Hopper
5715-5719 5 Covered Hopper
1997 - 04 (same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 07 (same) (all 3 rows)
1997 - 10 5714 1 Covered Hopper
1998 - 01 (same)
1998 - 04 (same)
1998 - 07 (same)
1998 - 10 (same)
1999 - 01 (same)
1999 - 04 (same)
1999 - 07 (same)
1999 - 10 (same)
2000 - 01 Not listed

ORER Notes

Note G (1/1972-7/1973)

Cars numbered [see list below] have special interior lining and hopper covers - for sugar service only

11/1973 - 1/1983

Lining note moved to main table description
[note: Only cars in series 5700-5719 listed in the table below - see other cars series for other cars included in note G]

Car No. First listed Last Listed
5702 1/1972 1/1983
5704
5705
5706
5707
5708
5709
5710
5711
5712
5713
5715
5716
5718
5719

per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (Jul, 1990), note 19, 5717 is also used for sugar service only

Discussion, General Notes

Per Don Clerke
Built by Pullman

Some of the dimensional changes in these cars are "interesting", and need to be explained...
Per NEB&W Guide IV
PS-2CD models, 4427 cu. ft. capacity

Paint Schemes

As delivered
all-grey, black hoppers, black lettering, all-black large intertwined "BM" herald

References or other data

Lofton, Martin. "PS-2 Covered Hoppers Part I" Mainline Modeler Jul 1991, pp 68-73
Plans of UP car (S scale)
Many photos (including B&M 5525), roster (note the B&M is listed in both tables, I'm not sure why it is split up)
Holland, Kevin "Boston & Maine Freight Cars" ["Paint Shop" column] Model Railroader Sep, 1999 pp130-132
Modeling this car (and 3 others)

Photographs

Page Car # Photo Date
yr-mo-day Visible? Markings Paint
Scheme Herald Notes

Northern New England Color Guide
p33 5709 1973-02 Y X B BM R R N Y 1? N N N grey black intertwined "BM" note painted instruction panel to right of car number
p33 5717 1966-11 Y X A BM R R N N N N N N grey black intertwined "BM" note (smaller) painted instruction panel to right of car number
Don Clerke inserts into B&MRRHS Bulletin
i 11 photo 31 5715 X B BM R R N Y 2V N N N grey original
Railroad Picture Archives (as of 10-Apr-2020)
Go to "By Railroad", then "Fallen Flags", then "BM" Boston & Maine section
Then "Rolling Stock Roster" → "Photographed" link, then page thru for car number
BM 5703 5703 1995-08-26 Y X BM R R N N 2V N N N original original
BM 5707 5707 1995-08-26 Y X BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original
Fallen Flags and Other Railroad Photos (as of 15-Apr-2020)
Scroll down to the "B" section, click on the "Boston & Maine (B&M)" link
Then scroll down to find the photo. The "Page" column has the "Link" text listed
LO 5703 5703 1995-08-26 Y X BM R R N N 2V N N N original original Same as "Fallen Flags" photo?
LO 5706 5706 1966-08 Y X BM R R N N N N N N original original "New"
LO 5707 5707 1995-08-26 Y X A BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original Same as "Fallen Flags" photo?
Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery (as of 29-Aug-2020)
"American Railroads" → "Boston & Maine"
Then scroll down to find the photo.
BM 5700 1966 X BM R R N N N N N N original original Builder's photo
Highball Graphics
N/HO/O scale decals, but they have a couple prototype pictures
Web site doesn't seem to work very well with Internet Explorer, use a newer browser.
From main page, "check" (under "Railroad" list at left) the "Boston & Maine" → "Boston & Maine PS-2CD 100T Cov. Hopper [N / HO / O] Scale" (scale doesn't matter, they have same photos on all)
5709 ? Y X p BM R R N Y 2V N N N original original yellow panel with lettering to right of reporting marks
Pullman Library, James Kinkaid Collection
If above doesn't work, try https://pullman-lib.smugmug.com
Then "Railroad - B" then scroll down
5700 1966-04? X p BM R R N N N N N N original original Builder's Photo
Rail Goat web site (as of 29-Jan-2022)
5700 1966-04? X p BM R R N N N N N N original original Builder's Photo

Renumberings/Conversions/Dispositions

Models

Scale Manufacturer Stock number Car number Paint scheme Notes
HO Walthers 5700? 5715 As delivered Unknown accuracy. Available in 1999 time frame, unknown if still available (Dec 2020)
HO ExactRail EP-80168-[1 thru 6] [6 numbers] As delivered Unknown accuracy. Listed in B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #130 (Jan-Feb 2011). Unknown if still available in Dec, 2020
HO Intermountain ? Unknown if available factory painted for B&M Unknown accuracy. Unknown if still available in Dec, 2020
N Athearn ? Unknown accuracy. Shown in Model Railroader Product Review April, 2021, "1966 and later" design (higher sides, 13 posts)
None decorated for B&M. None available on Athearn web site Mar-2021

Per B&MRRHS Modelers Notes #18 (1990), herald King H-620 decals are appropriate

Revision History

File History for THIS page
Date Who Description
31-Dec-2019 KG Akerboom Initial release
17-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Standardized Don Clerke "source" link
29-Mar-2020 KG Akerboom Added data from 19 more ORERs
02-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Added references
04-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Re-did references/photos section
16-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Added more web sites: B&MRRHS Flickr, Fallen Flags, NMRA Archives, Earl Tuson. Also Scott Whitney (NMRO) CDs
23-Apr-2020 KG Akerboom Updated per B&MRRHS Modeler's Notes #39
05-May-2020 KG Akerboom Moved ORER notes into separate section
07-May-2020 KG Akerboom Reformatted "Special Lining" table
21-Jul-2020 KG Akerboom "Photos" table - changed "vertical" text to PNG of "sideways" text; added "Markings" columns
07- thru
16-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added ORER data (History only, not dims or notes yet) for 63 more registers, courtesy of James Kinkaid
23-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added more Eric Neubauer data
29-Aug-2020 KG Akerboom Added "Canadian Freight Railcar Gallery" photos
23-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added photos from Highball Graphics decals site
30-Dec-2020 KG Akerboom Added Walthers model, MR "Paint Shop" reference, Exactscale model
21-Jan-2021 KG Akerboom Added Builder's Photos and link to one on smugmug
07-Mar-2021 KG Akerboom Added Athearn N scale model
29-Jan-2022 KG Akerboom Added "Rail Goat" web site photos